OldSlowReliable Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Alright, two things 1- Is it really mandatory to use a drop bracket? what are the penalties for NOT? 2- Are there any 'work arounds'? 3- Anyone got a template made up? Im not a big fan of 75 bucks, so i may call up a shop round hur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastpath Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 1.nope it isnt mandatory to use one, but the truck may pull slightly to the drivers side. 2.supposedly XJ brackets work, but I dont know this for sure 3.cheapest option is to do a mock up yourself and have a shop make one, but it still might run $50 or more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 1 your axle will be off center if you don't. mine was to the right about 1/2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 personally, i wouldnt Drop the pan hard bar. I would Raise it at the axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 personally, i wouldnt Drop the pan hard bar.I would Raise it at the axle. this is a good idea, I had considered it too but I think it is easier said than done. Really why not go to a triangulated 4 link so that its centered @ any travel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 this is a good idea, I had considered it too but I think it is easier said than done. Really why not go to a triangulated 4 link so that its centered @ any travel... easy... make your mount same lenght as the lift, Bolt it on in the existing location, then weld it.. its only single shear at the axle now. and as far as the triangulated 4 link.. the problem with it is, most people don't have the know how to do it. In addtion, if you loose 1 link, your done. You can loose a link end with the "5" link setup and still get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 well, the non-axle side has been done before and works...so.....ima see if i can go with that! I'll probably hold off on that for the camping trip, i should be ok, its only a 40 mile highway drive there :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastpath Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 well, the non-axle side has been done before and works...so.....ima see if i can go with that! I'll probably hold off on that for the camping trip, i should be ok, its only a 40 mile highway drive there :\ its not a pressing fix. i havent done mine yet and ive had my lift on for five months or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 will sears throw a huff if i don't use one when i go for the alignment after UCA's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly_94PathyMan Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 will sears throw a huff if i don't use one when i go for the alignment after UCA's? probably, but just tell them the kit you got didn't come with it, they were shipping it, and you will come back when it is all finished...wink...wink....lol....that usually works with most mods on cars, or just tell them you want the front done, period. You are paying for goods, they won't turn you down, and if they do, go to midas...lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 will sears throw a huff if i don't use one when i go for the alignment after UCA's? probably, but just tell them the kit you got didn't come with it, they were shipping it, and you will come back when it is all finished...wink...wink....lol....that usually works with most mods on cars, or just tell them you want the front done, period. You are paying for goods, they won't turn you down, and if they do, go to midas...lol! No Sears won't care at all, even if the techs notice. There is no alignment that can be done with the rear so it doesn't matter and they won't pay any attention to it. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 That's right, they won't care. I have a Lifetime Alignment at Firestone, had one realignment done after lift install and they said nothing. As B said, they don't/can't align the rear end anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Yeah, I would take a guess that about 98% of Pathfinders with a lift do not have a drop bracket on the panhard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) No Sears won't care at all, even if the techs notice. There is no alignment that can be done with the rear so it doesn't matter and they won't pay any attention to it. B Not 100% true because if they care enough to test drive it after, the truck will probably still pull. I had my old truck done without the drop bracket (still don't have one) and it pulled even after alignment done by a friend who was a very good mechanic. Just tell them to get the front in spec, and disregard any pulling, as it's due to the rear axle being out of place. Edited June 26, 2009 by Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Actually, if they allign it properly, they will hook up all 4 wheels. They won't adjust anything in the rear, but the computer will referance the position of the rears for getting the front into proper spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 yeah, so if i go for an alignment, won't they align all the front to the back, and therefore misalign the front? Or, i could just pay for two alignments O_O 70 bucks each... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 it'll cause your rig to dogleg down the road. thats the pulling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 i was thinking...why not just install the UCA's, get the alignment, THEN install the rear lift.... I'll probably have a shop fab one up for me, cause Its a pretty good drive to my offroad venues, and i like to eat while i drive...and not get in accidents! It'll have to wait till after this camping trip though...oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 i was thinking...why not just install the UCA's, get the alignment, THEN install the rear lift.... I'll probably have a shop fab one up for me, cause Its a pretty good drive to my offroad venues, and i like to eat while i drive...and not get in accidents! It'll have to wait till after this camping trip though...oh well! You can't steer with a knee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 You can't steer with a knee? I eat with ALL appendages! Naw, Its mostly because my mom will drive it every so often, and she will come yelling @ me that i broke it..... Not too bad to get a bracket made, and ill deal with the pull for a while anyways, i guess it depends on how bad it is :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavefromOZ Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Heres a link to a former active members solution, interesting idea, keeps the Panhard secure with the original mounts too. http://pcoa.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=465 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 that would work, only issue is that you want your pan hard as paralel with the world as possible. I know its not always possible to do this. the more of an angle it has, the more it will pull side to side with flex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpeace Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I'm confused on what the solution actually was in that thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I'm confused on what the solution actually was in that thread He got a bar from a Landcruiser and swapped it in (after minor mods). Looked like one end was adjustable on it also, so he could set i to just the right length he needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeV Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 My calmini kit came with a 3" bracket (Don't mind the lil holes in the frame; just a flesh wound;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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