94pathfinder Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) Is there anything out there that is stronger than the replacement cv half shafts for the pathfinders. I keep breaking mine with the ARB. busted another one today, im really sick of having to replace them almost every three months. Thanks John Edited April 9, 2010 by 94pathfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 are you using warn hubs? warn makes an "upgraded" ring for their hubs that intentionally breaks before your CV does. They run about $10 bucks a piece and can be changed on the trail in about 5 min using a single socket wrench and maybe a snap ring pliers. 4x4 parts sells CV joints and they might be stronger but I do not know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) Can you show (picture) or tell me where you break them ?? The reason I ask is that I hope it's the inner joint (tripod) , cause I am trying to make a better cv also and will build a new alternative based on a porsche 930 joints that can support alot (read 400+) of torque and have a steeper angle of operation. I have found pretty much all the parts I need and just need to find some time to start measuring and designing... I am basing my self on the design of rcv performance... They have made an unbreakable cv for the fj and will be adapting their design to our cvs... https://www.rcvperformance.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=47 They basically replace the tripod joint with a 930 joint. Then they change all the internal to chromoly . One question : would you be willing to pay 400-500 $ for an unbreakable cv ?? That's the real question.... I mean I will do them for me, but I wonder hom many people are trail commited enough to drop that kind of money for cv's.... anyway...another solution is to find a manufacturer of cv that will have a life warranty...I know that NAPA in canada have that. I'm sure you can find the same in the US Edited April 10, 2010 by fleurys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Yeah, there is no "Heavy Duty" shafts on the market for us. I have also had ideas for stronger ways to make them, just no means or material sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94pathfinder Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 Can you show (picture) or tell me where you break them ?? The reason I ask is that I hope it's the inner joint (tripod) , cause I am trying to make a better cv also and will build a new alternative based on a porsche 930 joints that can support alot (read 400+) of torque and have a steeper angle of operation. I have found pretty much all the parts I need and just need to find some time to start measuring and designing... I am basing my self on the design of rcv performance... They have made an unbreakable cv for the fj and will be adapting their design to our cvs... https://www.rcvperformance.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=47 They basically replace the tripod joint with a 930 joint. Then they change all the internal to chromoly . One question : would you be willing to pay 400-500 $ for an unbreakable cv ?? That's the real question.... I mean I will do them for me, but I wonder hom many people are trail commited enough to drop that kind of money for cv's.... anyway...another solution is to find a manufacturer of cv that will have a life warranty...I know that NAPA in canada have that. I'm sure you can find the same in the US dude i've broken the upper joint, the lower joint, the stub shaft going into the hub, and i have snapped a shaft in half in between the u joints. yeah i probably would pay that. I have had the 4x4 arts shafts and they actually felt lighter than the replacement ones from napa, so i didn't trust them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Man you wheel hard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94pathfinder Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 Man you wheel hard! i don't think its the fact that i wheel hard, but more the fact that im not scared to break @!*%. i follow out local group through trails that they go on 36's-38's, and i'll do it on 31's. if it breaks i'll get it home, fix it, and do it again until i finish the trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Man you wheel hard! He is locked up front, that does make a big differance on what gives and what doesn't. You should look into warn hubs and those breakable rings One question : would you be willing to pay 400-500 $ for an unbreakable cv ?? That's the real question.... I mean I will do them for me, but I wonder hom many people are trail commited enough to drop that kind of money for cv's.... well if you break a dozen a year i'd say they would start paying for themseves real fast. In the meantime You should look into warn hubs and those breakable rings then you don't have to limp it home and try again later. you can just swap the ring on the trail and try again in 5 Min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATHRIDER Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I cannot believe that no one has suggested SAS yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovemaN Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The part for the Warn is called a hub fuse (#60863). $20-25 for two so about a $50 initial investment with spares. Much cheaper and easier than replacing CVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 The part for the Warn is called a hub fuse (#60863). $20-25 for two so about a $50 initial investment with spares. Much cheaper and easier than replacing CVs. nice info but I don,t think he was looking for a better fuse....just a better cv.... It's a nice thing to have this, but it's just putting another part that is less strong then the cv, then it will break even easier than before... meaning what he used to be able to go though without breaking, might not be the case anymore with this 'new' fuse.... we need to do engineer better cv...and it will be done...... you got my word on this... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msavides Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I have the fuses installed in my hubs, I also have an arb in the front. I have not broke any cv's or any fuses. However I have replaced both of my cv's with new ones from rock auto. In going over the specs for the fuses. They are still stronger than what the cv's are rated at. I think even with the fuse the cv's are still the weak link. The fuses are designed to fit many different hub model and I don't think they are rated to break before our lowly nissan cv's break. Also if your Cv's are breaking because they are binding then the fuse will not offer you any protection whatsoever. since the bind occurs well before the fuse. Also replacement cv's I have noted have less angle before they bind. I tested this against my stock Nissan ones when I replaced them with new ones. (I replaced my boots on my old shafts and kept them as spares for this reason. Now my only thought about this is that the nissan ones were worn so they did not bind as easy. So I eased the new one in to try and break them in before giving them the extreme stress of hard wheeling. This is just a theory. Just My 2 Cents Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dana 60.. and you will never break another CV shaft. I did read someplace that maxima shafts were better....... maybe worth the looksee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebob95WD21 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 We sell a brand called WONH (Taiwan) that are life time warranty, New, and cheap lol. $60 a shaft (or around $37 my Cost). I'm a little sketchy on using them myself. But if anyone is down in Vancouver,WA let me know and I can hook it up lol. My cost on RS 5000 Rancho's is around $39 each too! Let me know if you guy's need anything and I can try and get it inexpensive. Been selling parts for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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