xkrewx Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 what is the prado lift, i know this may seem like a stupid question but i saw some pictures and it looks like some soecially placed blocks...can somebody please enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyb33 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 it drops the sub-frame down 4.5 inches. so yes the sub-frame bolts to the unibody (r50s don't have a frame). So placing spacers (those blocks you see) where the subframe bolts to the unibody it drops the whole differential, UCAs, LCAs, CVs, EVERYTHING down 4.5 inches. Thats how it works, along with a steering extension, motor mount blocks. Any other questions you have you should direct them for www.pradolifts.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4x4le Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 The r50 doesent have ucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navygz19 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Any other questions you have you should direct them for www.pradolifts.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 SOMETHING LIKE THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoSkyZ Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I don't think it gives you more clearance though. You can, however fit bigger tires on than the other lifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I don't think it gives you more clearance though. You can, however fit bigger tires on than the other lifts. bigger tires = more clearance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganAve Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Coils lifts don't give you increased clearance between the rear diff and the ground either, only bigger tires can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoSkyZ Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Damn, I'm still trying to decide. I'm waiting for prices to come out. The biggest I want to go is 32. I think that the AC would be better for me, but I'm still not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonianbrat Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 You gotta admit Tyler's R50 looks freakin sweet with those 35"s!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Coils lifts don't give you increased clearance between the rear diff and the ground either, only bigger tires can do that. True, but a coil spring lift DOES increase the front crossmember clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganAve Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) True, but a coil spring lift DOES increase the front crossmember clearance. Only because you are increasing the CV angles-- using strut spacers or coils do the same thing in that regard. I have AC coils with my Prado lift but purposely chose to get my strut spacers smaller than my subframe drop to maintain CV angles closer to stock. Both Max and Matt did AC coils with 4.5" strut spacers for a whopping 6.5inches lift up front with the same front crossmember clearance as somebody just running an AC lift. It is not really a property of the coils, if you had 6.5" strut spacers and stock coils with the Prado subframe drop you'd get the same clearance as an AC coil lift (not that anybody would do such a stupid thing lol). But you get the point. You can pick your goals. Edited February 16, 2007 by MichiganAve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 where can i find 1" strut spacers ready to buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 You do realize that with 1" spacers, you will be at greater risk of overextending your CV axles when you get a front tire off the ground, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganAve Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Dude, look like 12 threads down on the front page and you'll see this: http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=12729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 You do realize that with 1" spacers, you will be at greater risk of overextending your CV axles when you get a front tire off the ground, right? Is 1" of extra droop with a wheel off the ground really any worse than a 2" coil lift 24/7?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissandoms47 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 dude, looking at fuelers wheelin pics so far i dont think he will disconnect his front sway bar, so 1" front spacers will be no problem at all for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 dude, looking at fuelers wheelin pics so far i dont think he will disconnect his front sway bar, so 1" front spacers will be no problem at all for him. Hahaha! You might be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_stryker Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 i also agree. fueler i had some ready to go...but no one wanted em. so did tyler...now its too late. i mean one of us could call the guy up again no problem...but youre looking at 1/6 the costs of a real lift kit....just for spacers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmorgan4 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Thanks to everyone for chiming in about the lift. It's nice to have a whole group of people that can answer questions for you while you're away. Fueler, if you want a set of spacers I'm having a few sets made. They'll be $80+shipping since it's 1" thick aluminum. You have a little while to decide since I figured it would be best to have the shop make a single set so I can make sure everything lines up first due to some slight differences in strut flange drawings. As everyone has said, the subframe drop lift doesn't increase the clearence under the front crossmember itself, but it does increase clearence drastically under the body. I'll get some measurements later. It would be great to compare with stock just to see what I've gained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 youre looking at 1/6 the costs of a real lift kit....just for spacers Basically, i'm in love with the stock springs. They are much too comfortable to take them out. When I saw the difference in spring rates from OEM to AC, I was shocked. I do not want to be bumped around as if I was driving a lowered rice rocket. I enjoy flying down the Mexican 5 "freeway" while sipping on a hot cup of coffee in the morning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganAve Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Um, the AC springs are only 20% stiffer than stock and the OME springs are 10% stiffer. On my last car I ran springs 3x stiffer than these... This isn't that stiff. Considering your stockers are probably weak and saggy you will honestly get a smoother ride with new coils and shocks. You'll be surprised how much better it feels over bumps, dips, and in corners. Unless you top out, that's no fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyb33 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 The r50 doesent have ucas im sorry it was a quick reply. I realize they do not have UCAs for that i am sorry. but i have installed this lift therefore know more about it than you do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissandoms47 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 fueler as i said before, get the ome HD springs. they will suit you well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) Um, the AC springs are only 20% stiffer than stock and the OME springs are 10% stiffer Those are the numbers according to AC. Sales tactic. The actual measurements are quite different. OEM = 115 lbs/in AC = 160 lbs/in That is over 40% stiffer. NOT the measly 20% like AC claims. Found on their own board at: http://www.4x4parts.com/ubbthreads/showfla...true#Post505099 Edited February 17, 2007 by FUELER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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