Seriously..... Tungston....
How many times do you think this Forum needs to read your opinion on cup holders? I'm pretty sure everyone GETS it. You have a general dislike, hatred, loathing, WHATEVER, for all things cup holder. Perhaps you had an abusive cupholder in your family growing up, or perhaps you were ridiculed as a child by other children because you have some strange appendage deformation that looks like a Cupholder, whatever your problem be, we all get it, You're a little sensitive on the cup holder subject.
And if you could care less whether a vehicle comes with, should come with, never came with, or was ruined by the addition of cupholders, that's wonderful, but you just keep repeating yourself over and over and over... and it starts to get a bit annoying really. All I know is I "personally" don't need to read any more about your personal preference on the subject and instead of Cluttering up every single thread containing the words "Cup holder" in it on this Forum with a comment about how much you think its pointless, stupid, unappealing, unsatisfactory, or whatever else you have to say on the subject, I vote that you be forbidden from commenting on All threads containing the words "Cup Holder" in it.
If I come across as harsh its because I know you like to tell it as it is so I'm not going to sugar coat it.