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Alright. We've talked a bit about this in the A-Pillar Gauge Pod Thread but i'd like to get some resources for others to utilize so that they can know with 100% certainty the color they have and require. SO, this is what I was thinking. From what I understand this is the list of colors available between the Pathfinders, and Hardbody's from 86.5 -97. If I'm missing any, let me know. Red - Code A Light Grey - Code K Dark Grey - Code K Dark Brownish Grey - Code K Brownish Grey - Code K Tan - Code ? Blue - Code B Light Blue - Code B Black - Code K Now since theres so many Code K options and some of them only available to a Hardbody, people sometimes don't know which they have. light grey to one person might be gark grey to another or brownish grey to another so I'm hoping we can just get that last bit sorted out. What I'd like some of you generous members here to do to help is get those 7 sample colors up here. So if you guys could go out to the vehicle, take a small trim piece off, like the small access door in the rear cargo area, put it on a white background, like a piece of blank paper, etc. and take a picture of it. From there post it up here. If everyone takes a picture in the same way, the minor differences will be apparent. Thanks.

Update time. So since we're on the 23rd now, we're going to proceed with the project at this time. The official design winner is the 3 gauge, no tweeter and currently we have 24 committed orders as of today. Those of you who have not gotten back to me but have shown interest, you have until this evening to reply to the PM's that were sent. The cut off date was yesterday but I'll be sending off the information they require to proceed this evening so you have very little time left. I called the company today to talk of concerns with how the shipping process will be handled and what they want me to do from this step forward. I will be arranging everyone's shipping addresses and sending them off to the company for their accurate price quotes. After a couple of days, they'll send me a reply along with a price quote next to each individual name. I'll then be able to email each of you individually with the total costs to you. At that point we can start dealing with payments. The company will handle all shipping obligations and will ship internationally. He also expressed the need for color requirements at this time too, which I have from all of you, the issue is the company themselves still do not have all the samples required to make the colors available. We need some more volunteers to scour some Yards and gather the correct colors for shipment to the company. On the Update Page, (Page 1 post #10) you see what has already been sent off to them and the jury is still out on how many different variations there were on colors. I'm going to back track thru the thread and try and figure out how many different colors that were mentioned, and then try and edit the update page to represent that a bit better. I'll get a mass email out to everyone committed with everything I just said out incase some of you aren't following this as closely as others. I will not be sending emails to those of you who were conditionally committed for a 2 gauge, with tweeter design, unless, as was stated back on the 16th, you've had a change of heart and wish to still be included. If that is the case, let me know by this evening.

Hey that's great! Glad you found it. Sent you a PM and added you to the List. Just in time. Sunday is the Cut off so get that info back to me.

Alright, time for an update. So we’ve hit he mark we’ve been hoping for. As of yesterday, we now have 20 Unconditional Committed buyers and a couple that we’re conditional on both sides of the fence. At this point, I’m going to put a deadline out there so we can get to the next step. I’m going to allow those that we’re originally interested until the 22nd of April to reply with your responses. After that, this project is moving forward without you. As of today, the votes are in favor of the 3 gauge pillar no tweeter and unless 8 more people chime in and commit with a vote against it, that will be the design we move forward with. If on the 22nd, those that were committed conditionally on the 2 gauge design wish to change their minds and pick up a 3 gauge version, let me know and I’ll change your status and keep you up to speed on the email list. So…… Here we are. This project is finally going to move along now. Let the countdown commence!!!

crap. I can see its got the square dash. The buttons for those years were completely different. Oh well. A guy can try. As for exspensive shipping, Its a project so the cost will be what they are. The option weren't available here so if I want the factory option, shipping from there is a must. keep your eyes peeled for the round dash style and if you come across one, you'll have a buyer. Thanks anyway.

Hey man, if you'd like to help a fellow member out, maybe you could give me a little hand and I'll pay ya for your trouble. If you wouldn't mind, I've been looking for quite some time, for someone from OZ or New Zealand to hook me up with the head light washer button out of a 94-95 terrano. The one with the round dash. It on the Dash console, top row with the 4 buttons where the hazard button is. It should be the one on the far right, closest to the steering wheel for you guys. I'm wanting that button with the connector attached with about 3 inches of wire so I can splice in. And the reservoir with the pump, again with the connector attached with 3 inches of wire. Everything else I can source but I'd like to use the factory button. I'll pay ya for the button, and all shipping charges. Good score on the junk yard win!! You could always do a center console swap out of the R50. That was just done a week ago and there's a good semi write up on how it was done. Take the console, and the auto shifter to match up. In return you get a slick console and CUPHOLDERS! If you own a Manual, its the same console, the shifter part is an interchangeable plastic piece that you change for manual or auto.

Page 1 Post #10, Or the Official Update Page has been updated with all current info that I have. Check it out. It's damn colorful and I know you bastages love my colorful work. Any feedback? Concerns? Happy with how its all laid out?

Thanks Puckstoper9, I'll eventually get everything all sorted out and have everything organized a bit better. Now.... for an Update. I spoke with Dennis at LoTek Inc. today about a few issues. I got a bit better of an explanation about the making process and what the tweeter set up would look like if that is the design that is approached. Basically the whole unit is vacuum molded so in the end they just cut a hole that fits the factory grill. The exterior portion would be a very close match and you'd probably not notice anything different then the Passenger side from the exterior. On the back side of the Pillar, if the factory piece has anything that assists in or centering the tweeter, or if the tweeter is attached to the trim piece, etc, that will not be there since the vacuum process cannot allow for this. As for getting a price quote on a 3 gauge Pillar no tweeter, he quote the unit would be $5.00 more so effectively $54.99 a unit. And finally, I spoke about how much the price would come down if we were to round up 30-40 buyers and his answer was absolutely nothing. First off he mentioned that the minimum order is usually 30 and not 20. The website is outdated and production costs have increased over the years. He said he will do a minimum order of 20 for us but he claims they will make little to nothing on the project and even with 30-40 buyers the price will not change. I was also told that the end product will most likely retail for about the same that we are paying now as well so there is little to gain in that respect by getting in a group buy to save a few coins. To be honest, I wasn't really all that pleased to hear that with all the hard work that is done to make this project happen, getting so many people together for such a large group buy, that if we get them 20 more orders they can't do sh*t for a discount. After all, we're paying for the mold to be made so they can collect on any future order. At any rate, That's where we're at for up to date info with the company. On a different note, I'll be making some changes to the Page 1, Post #10 in the next couple of days with a few additions and we'll narrow this whole process down a bit more. I was unable to send out PM's last night due to some irritating issue with the forum, and it's getting a bit late for me tonight. Tomorrow night will be better for me. Ciao for now.

Sorry Scott, Pretty much every person that has emailed me hasn't received a return email yet. BUT, have you checked Page 1 post #10? your name has been green since the day you sent it. I've been updating the list the same day I receive emails so its all good to go. I'll be sending out a mass email to all the committed buyers soon for a few more tidbits to add since as this is progressing I'm seeing a lot of people are on the fence due to the tweeter, no tweeter thing so going to get that worked out once and for all so it's not an issue down the road. I'll also be RE-PMing all of you who haven't gotten your lazy asses around to emailing a response. I really need to get around to posting up on NOAS and RR too so hopefully that will give us some more. I'll contast the company tomorrow to see if the tweeter hole will look identical to the factory option, (which I believe it is) I'll also get a quote on a 3 pod no tweeter so we can see if prices change. I'll let you know when I know more.

BOOOOO! I thought this was a thread with pictures of a woman mounting a Compression rod. I'm so disappointed. Although I recall others on here talking about it in the past I've not yet seen pictures or heard confirmation of it being done. Something about it though doesn't sit well with me. If you look at how the Compression rod sits on the underside of the LCA, it seems to me that the outside edge of the LCA may help soak up energy associated with shock. The rod sits right up against it partially and I can't help but think it helps in some way with bracing. If it were mounted from the top, it would have nothing on the sides and all forces would be through the bolts. Maybe I'm completely off base here, but its food for thought if nothing else.

You got it. PM sent. Thanks B. I suppose I should have let everyone know you sent me an email days and days ago after all my shenanagains. I still got you up for 2 so let me know if that changes. Post #10 on Page 1 Updated. Also. I think I'll ask all you Committed members out there, (and I'm referring to the "committed" term in a non mental health sort of way. ) when would be a good time to RE-remind those members that PM's have been sent to, that they have not responded yet. I don't want to seem too pushy. But I don't want people to lose interest either and technically nothing can go forward with what we have currently since we haven't got enough Committed members yet. Let me know. Cheers.

Now see! You fit right in! Feel free to find a corner of this place, piss on it and call it yours. I will only take back my thick skin comment on the condition that you in some way insult me in a humourus manner. The wittier the better. Now stick around. Hell we're practically family right? by the way, how are my kids doin?...................... Too far?

..... ..... ..... ..... I'm sorry but seriously...... You're so utterly upset after starting a thread like this and getting sarcastic responses that it's enough to make you want to give up on the Forum? Wait a minute...... *checks date* No.... it's not April 1st. Wow.... well then....... On behalf of the rest of Canada, I'd like to apollogze for what appears to be a Canadian that does not have thick skin despite our frigid winters. Man.... seriously.... it's the internet and no one here is doing anything other then the usual ass hatery and douche baggery. Try not to take anything personal.... Unless your Tungsten. Then you should take everything serious. Pssst. even he knows I'm kidding.

Love how relaxed the driver is in the Pathfinder. Arm just dangling out the car like he's on his way to the grocery store. "Can we get a move on here, I've got to get a loaf of bread and some milk." Great Pic. Congrats man.

Alright..... SOooooooooooooo This is a reminder to all of you out there that have not yet sent out a Response Email to the PM I sent all of you back on March 20th. I'd like to get this started so those of us waiting, who are committed can see some results so, those that have not done so yet, I'm sure you know who you are, and if you don't I have taken the liberty of making it obvious on Post #10 of Page 1,, I'd appreciate any kind of response so we can move forward with the project at this time. If you are no longer interested, send me an email telling me to go F*** myself. I'm fine with that, just send it out. Thank you for your time. Oh, and additionally, I'd like to add that Precise1 eats one HELL of a lot of bacon. It's been 7 days since he started his perpetual bacon diet. I don't want to seem naggish, but since I've decided to take this on so that we may all benefit, I need people to work with me. Hope this is colourful enough for you Bastages. *edit* One final note, The design of 2 pods and a tweeter vs 3 pods no tweeter,is still something that can be changed depending on what the majority of the COMMITTED buyers want. What we originally sent was the trim piece with the tweeter so we could see if 3 pods could affectively be made WITH the tweeter. not necessarily written in stone that it has to be 2 pods and a tweeter. I'll send out a mass email to all Committed buyers asking your preference and we'll go from there.

On the 94-95 models I'm possitive the nut size is 41mm or 1-5/8". If you are looking to get something from a wrecking yard in Ontario, bring HEAT, a LARGE PIPE WRENCH, and a LONG ASS CHEATER BAR. I just got a second pitman arm from my local wrecker and I had to go back 3 times. I brought penetraiting fluid and a 1-5/8" socket with a 2 foot breaker bar the first time and I used a cheater on it. I broke the breaker bar. 2nd time I Hauled my own air compressor thru the damn yard to avoid the $50.00 air charge they impose, only to find that my HD impact good for 600 ft lb wasn't good enough even with heat, and the last trip I brought a huge pipe wrench and a 6 foot long Pipe that fit the handle, and some heat. Finally after wedging myself on another vehicle at the end of the bar I was able to break it loose but not before bending the handle on the pipe wrench. all that for a $10.00 Pitman arm. Spent way more in time then it would have cost me to just buy an aftermarket one. Rust is an awful thing.

Nothing wrong with a little bling. Theres no reason one can't hit the trails in style. I like chrome so works for me.

This is where proper grammar is a MUST. With the accidental mistype of one extra letter, like so... It could make you look a little different in the eyes of the internets! Can't wait to see how this turns out! I already have my hardbody parking brake waiting for pick up at an American freight yard.

You still fail to see his point. a) The actual IMPACT zone where the Tie rod meets the Centerlink is still going to take abuse before the stabilizer even receives the shock energy. Obviously the centerlink is not the problem that will fail in this scenario which is what he is referring to when he says you are just moving the problem to another area. b ) What he means by steering systems work best in straight lines is that when you take a factory spec Pathfinder the TRE's are as close to parallel with the Centerlink. This allows the force to be spread over the actual Joint and not the stem. When we lift our rigs and the angle changes from straight to, "45 degrees" as you state, the forces work on the stem more and ultimately bend the TRE's. It's not just because it has a maximum travel distance of 45 degrees that is the problem. From your explanation, you're saying that the side mounted TRE offers 90 degrees of movement, but in reality, once you travel past the 45 degree point, the leverage of it all is going to be on the bend in the inner TRE. Thats the point he's making. That is where the failure is most likely to occur. Its not a steering fix, its a steering damage relocation. And on your second comment about pitman arms and Idler arms being bent from factory so there are bends in the steering system already. Seriously..... a) the Pitman arm is the beefiest component in the steering system next to the box itself, and secondly, idler arms bend frequently, even on Stock units. It was just a poor design hands down.

Page 1 Post #10 updated. Check to see who has committed and who still needs to reply to their PM's. *cough* Mail Bag Boy *cough*

I'm pretty sure what he's getting at is that the shock loads are still present and hit the components with just as much force, the difference is that the stabilizer soaks up that shock AFTER it has already hit the components and lessens the effect at that point. The driver feels less because it has dampened it that is not the question. he's saying it masks the possible problems your steering may have because they will still wear out at the same rate because the shock hits those main steering components in question before the damper soaks the force. which he is correct about. he's talking about shock loading which is not to be confused with continual force. Think of it like taking a large stick and whacking it against a tree hard. The shock load of it will cause it to snap, vs applying pressure on both ends of the stick and trying to bend it until it breaks. He's right that the shock forces will still affect the steering components the same as they would without the stabilizer. The Dampener is not needed until that force is initially applied.

Might be best to PM him since he's not always keeping an eye on everything out there on all forums. He's a busy guy and unless he's alerted of a new message, he may over look this and it will come across to you that he's being a dick that doesn't want business. Try either his GrandpaX or AK9849cy logins.

I've had both an auto and manual in a Pathfinder. Manuals are for actually Driving. The Auto's don't count as driving. Sort of just like hanging on to the steering wheel and turning now and then. I have an auto now and I'm constantly thinking about finding a good Manual Donor. Although.... keep in mind I haven't driven mine in almost 3 years....... Kids are a Disease that suck the very essence of time out of you, and make you somehow feel good about it. It's a terrible affliction.

Alright everyone, For those who are interested to see this become a reality, and wish to purchase the product, here's what has to happen next. I'll be sending each and every person that showed interest on the list a PM with a link to this Thread so you can catch up if you haven't done so yet, additionally, you will need to provide me with a yes or no response, your height in foot/inches, you full name, Your username here so I know who's who, a shipping address and a personal Email address so I can keep you informed easier to make this whole process easier to follow and to not have everyone feel like they don't know what's going on. Please send all replies to my E-MAIL address I will provide you so I don't get a crap load of messages to both my email and here. Once I verify that I have 20 potential buyers, we can proceed with dealing with transfer of payment so that the company will start the production of the prototype. The prototype will be sent to me for fitment, and to verify the gauges are pointed at the optimal height level for the majority of the buyers. (Yes, I'm not just going to set them up perfectly for me and send it back with the thumbs up.) Alright, expect a PM if you've been involved with this thread and please get back to me promptly. I'm sure everyone would like to see this started sooner rather than later. *edit* My email in no way can be used by anyone for spam and junk chain letters of any kind. Other than this project, or questions pertaining to it, consider it non existent. thank you and have a wonderful day. *edit #2* PLEASE MAKE ROOM IN YOUR MAIL BAG TO RECEIVE NEW MESSAGES! SOME OF YOU ARE FULL AND I CANNOT SEND YOU DETAILS.

Just for clarification, I believe what he meant was that they will design it for use with the factory tweeter, and cover, it will come pre cut, but the customer will have to provide the Factory Tweeter cover as they will not be supplying them. The price of the units are close to the price for other units with 2 pods they have for sale for more common vehicles. Paint is optional from what I understand with black being the choice as standard no color. It's too bad they don't think 3 pods would fit nicely, I was rather looking forward to 3 pods as well. I'm still interested myself although I agree the the price is getting up there.