NissanNismoZ Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Okay.. so my 1995 nissan pathfinder had a miss to it.. so i had everything checked at a shop and they said it was the number 5 injector.. well. i took it back home and started the 'project' I look and find the number 5 injector under the intake..so i remove it (which was a pain! it had so many vacuum lines and sensors) and remove the injector. i check that i have the right screw for the fuel injector ( it was late so i continued it in the morning) and dropped the screw in the fuel injector hole. (AAAHHH!!!!) i get my mini flashlight and notice the valve is closed and water is standing in there..with the screw! So i have 2 questions.. i know i dont have the time or patience to remove the engine..or the tools.. Will the water harm the engine? (i had the hood closed and it rained last night..so i guess my luck it got wet in there) and any ideas o how to remove the screw? i bought the little magnet and slid it through the air intake hole and it pulled up with it but fell back down on the valve.. (remember the valve is closed) so i know its there..but where? i cant seem to slip the magnet past the valve.. i pulled the spark plug to see if i could do anything there..but still no luck. any ideas would be greatly appreciated! I really didnt expect a simple repair to turn into a project.. i want to do anything but start taking apart the engine.. thank you! - Cody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhornet Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 get a smaller magnet and dont do anything stupid like turning the engine over at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yep, get a magnet on a stick that you can probe with, the stronger the better. I have at least 3 or 4 if were closer. Also, I bet that is gas you are staring at, not water. If the hood was closed, rain will not get in a cylinder... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NissanNismoZ Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yep, get a magnet on a stick that you can probe with, the stronger the better. I have at least 3 or 4 if were closer. Also, I bet that is gas you are staring at, not water. If the hood was closed, rain will not get in a cylinder... B i bought one from autozone that extends like an antenna but its still too big to fit in the fuel injector hole..so im stuck with the air intake hole.. it might be.. im just hoping it doesnt hurt anything. but trust me i dont plan on turning the engine over.. i know that's just asking for trouble if it gets into the cylinder.. its like the screw sticks to the valve or air intake walls when i get it on the magnet.. im glad its not water though. it really worried me.. thanks i'll keep it posted when i finally get it out of there. i appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewebster Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Probably getting caught on the intake gasket. You could bend your telescoping pick up tool... it'd be ruined, but ya gotta get that screw out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 you could hook a piece of fish tubing to a vacuum of some sort and use probing suction to get hold of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Could you drain the coolant a little and pull the lower manifold? then you could get the screw with a needle nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyButTrusty Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Get a really really strong magnet and use it to "magnetize" something that'll fit in there. The magnetism of whatever object you "magnetize" won't be terribly strong, but it may be good enough to pick up a screw. If that doesn't work, you might try grinding the magnet end on the telescopic one you got down a little so it'll fit. Just a couple of thoughts, best of luck to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Be careful with those cheapie telescoping magnets... Ive already had to pull a head over one of them breaking (fourtantly it was an easy head to yank) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dowser Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 How about a powerful shopvac. Make sure its empty and then try to suck it out. Worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranay Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Link - how to make an electromagnet Replace the nail with some wire like a piece of coat hanger or something similar thats small enough to bend and fit in the hole. you can even use a big 6 volt flashlight battery or something stronger. Hope you get this figured out man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel595 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 if you can see it and you put some vaseline on a small screw driver it will stick to it. or put an air nozzle up to the spark plug hole and blow it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Get one of these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yep, that might work also. How about a powerful shopvac. Make sure its empty and then try to suck it out. Worth a shot. No!! Bad idea if there is gas in the cylinder!! B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dowser Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yep, that might work also. No!! Bad idea if there is gas in the cylinder!! B A wet dry Vac then. And Whats the chances....... Try it and I'll keep an eye on the obituaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NissanNismoZ Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 I got it out! The screw went to the other side of the valve, so i shook the pathfinder a bit and the vaseline on the screw driver worked. Thanks! anytime i tried to use a magnet it would stick to the side of the lower intake and fall back in.. Thanks everyone for the ideas! Only now..the injector made for a TIGHT fit..and i had a friedn help me.. and they got the idea of how to put it in.. put the cap that goes over it on it andscrew it in and it will go in as you screw it in! That worked....until the cap actually snapped in half.. Does anyone have any idea what this part is called, or where i could get it? I know, it was probably a stupid idea to let them do that..but it wouldnt go in at all.. Thank you everyone! I really appreciate it. It's becoming a lot more trouble than expected.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 sounds like somethign I would call a pick-a-part run with deep pockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewebster Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I wouldn't recommend that installation technique for when you find a new cap either Lubricate the o-rings and slowly push the injector in while slightly twisting back and forth. I was able to get a new fuel rail at the wreckers that came with those caps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) got a picture of the part you broke? I still have some leftovers from my old engine that I'd be glad to rid myself of. Edited February 24, 2011 by k9sar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NissanNismoZ Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 got a picture of the part you broke? I still have some leftovers from my old engine that I'd be glad to rid myself of. no, but i could get a picture if needed.. i think i may have fixed it.. i googled and found something called J.B. Weld? It's these two tubes you mis and it holds the two pieces of metal together.. like the superglue of metal i'll see how it works out.. but thank you! and i'll let you know if i need it. Gotta love the support you get from this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 JB Weld is a bandage, not a fix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 no, but i could get a picture if needed.. i think i may have fixed it.. i googled and found something called J.B. Weld? It's these two tubes you mis and it holds the two pieces of metal together.. like the superglue of metal i'll see how it works out.. but thank you! and i'll let you know if i need it. Gotta love the support you get from this forum! I just have to add, like Nunya said, JB weld is just what you called it, super glue for metal. Don't count on glue... Plenty of people here have parts laying around or are parting out a vehicle so you can easily/cheaply get a replacement part. What exactly is broken and post a picture of it. Also consider posting in the 'parts wanted' section... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 yep.. fix is better than patch. I'd be glad to mail you the needed part for the cost of postage (unless it's less than a buck then I'll just do it for the hell of it. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NissanNismoZ Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 JB Weld is a bandage, not a fix... yeah.. found that out the hard way when i went to put it back on..needless to say.. it broke again. Sorry im being delayed with the replies.. im having to work on it at the school auto shop.. but i have most of the intake put back together.. should i really go ahead and get a new injector cap? I tightened the good side down really tight and it doesnt seem to budge or move at all.. I'd be more than willing to pay through paypal to get the part.. i really appreciate the help everyone! let me know and i'll see what i can do. Also.. as bad as i hate to keep going off-topic to this thread i broke a hose on the intake.. (a lot of the hoses seem to be dry-rotted) anyone know where i could pick these parts up at? (remember this truck sat for atleast a year of no running before i got it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewebster Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 You might want to replace most of those hoses while you've got it apart. The dealer can likely order ones that will fit properly, for a bit of a premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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