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As for everyone else, lets keep the bashing down. As you can tell, I don't agree with Steve's method of action here, but I think enough has been said on that matter. Thank you.

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As for everyone else, lets keep the bashing down. As you can tell, I don't agree with Steve's method of action here, but I think enough has been said on that matter. Thank you.

As we all (all who know V6) realized, he was trying to get a rise out of people. I do think if there is something that can be done for MZ, we should. No matter how private he might have wanted to keep things, we all are a family and do care for our own. He has nothing to be ashamed of in his position, he did nothing but defend himself and his property to get him in this situation, which is what anyone would have done. Though I don't like being informed by some troll, I am glad to have been made aware of MZ's situation. He is a good guy, and did not deserve to be put in the place he is now!

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Wow, this place seems friendly, it almost has a family feel to it. What is lurking below the surface.May I introduce myself. My name is Steve Anderson. I recently found out my old friend Maciej (mzextreem) was shot in the back by two intruders into his home and left for dead. He is now a cripple. Well, not recently but not as long ago as some members on this board did. Isn't that right Pezzy? I am perplexed that this so called family friendly site, and more so the supposed friends on this site (Bernard "B" and Scotty "RP88" to name two more)could prioritise a fund for buying back someone's Pathfinder while this young man fought for his life in hospital. You guys dropped mz like a hot potato. What a nice family you guys are. How does it feel Jim to have your car back, while someone who helped make this site, before it got dull and boring, can but wonder why he was deserted in his hour of need. Where was the fund raiser or donations for mz Pezzy? Where are his wheels? He cruises in an old beat up secondhand wheel chair. Why drop him as a mod? Is this what you guys do to each other over there? Need help.... F_CK OFF! is that it? It certainly looks like it.I'll be out to see him by the years end or early in the new year. Some of you guys have is phone number. Ring it!By the way, he has no idea that I have done this. Indeed he was opposed to it when I first raised the issue of confronting you. He still is now.

Wow. I'm sorry to hear about MZ. I hope his recovery is going well.

 

Steve,

 

Please be civilized and PM the Admin team if you have any further questions/issues with them. Bringing this out in the open doesn't do anyone any good. Life is already hard as it is, lets not make it worse.

 

 

K

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Get one thing straight.. I am not back hear at all. Graveyards bore me. There is no agenda. I do find it hard to believe that Pezzy has not said a word to anyone. She has known form the start what happened to Maciej. She would have know mz's personal and mental anguish when you guys decided to drop him as a mod... A nice kick in the guts wouldn't you say when you feel that is all you have left. mz feels like he has been dropped by you guys. And he has been... Like it or not, that's how he feels. Would you want to come back after that has happened to you? I apologise humbly if you guys honestly didn't know... I just find that hard to accept at the moment. I could not and would not keep such a secret about a friend who is obviously distressed, in pain, scared and not certain if he wants to be on the planet anymore.

 

Bernard, I know you guys had a falling out but get over it man. I never thought you a shallow person before... I still don't despite your cheap shots!

 

Scotty, you lied to me when you said you passed on my message to mz. You didn't at all.... Pezzy did. mz needs your friendship guys. He doesn't want or need any pitty or anything else. FFS, contact him and let him know that you give a fuc_!

 

And for the wannabe that sent me a personal message... Learn to spell!

 

B and RP88, you have my email address.... use it please.

 

As for the rest of you, go fourth and multiply... Not you though slick. :itsallgood:

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You are a good lady for keeping such a thing secret Pezzy. Some secrets should not be kept so close to ones chest though. It didn't benifit mz at all. Drop me an email if you feel like it. We'll chat from there.

 

P.S. Ban me now.. lol. I have said what I wanted to say.

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As we all (all who know V6) realized, he was trying to get a rise out of people. I do think if there is something that can be done for MZ, we should. No matter how private he might have wanted to keep things, we all are a family and do care for our own. He has nothing to be ashamed of in his position, he did nothing but defend himself and his property to get him in this situation, which is what anyone would have done. Though I don't like being informed by some troll, I am glad to have been made aware of MZ's situation. He is a good guy, and did not deserve to be put in the place he is now!

 

You're a troll GG but at least we are on the same page for once. And it wasn't to get a rise out of anyone. If I wanted to do that, I'd ask how the illegal wars are going? You know you are losing them, don't you? See :takebow:

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I don't know you. I don't know what you came here for, but this forum is about nissan pathfinders. It's sad that a friend of yours got shot, but people live and die everyday. That's life... yeah it sucks, but it's life. Coming here like a moron spitting crap, true or false, does not help you or your friend.

 

Choosing to raise a fund for someone is a choice not an obligation. I<m pretty sure if people knew what happened and you would have talked about it in a civilized way, you could have done something positive....but now you blew it captain. Nice post...

 

I suggest you try again...

 

And the winner of "I opened my mouth instead of keeping it shut" goes to this guy.

 

As for everyone else that can see past their own egos..... Time to rally and support our friend.

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Scotty, you lied to me when you said you passed on my message to mz. You didn't at all.... Pezzy did. mz needs your friendship guys. He doesn't want or need any pitty or anything else. FFS, contact him and let him know that you give a fuc_!

 

 

Really Steve? How about we get this one out of the way, right away!

 

This is an exact copy and paste of the last email I sent you. Sent on on April 8 2010 at 10:23PM PST This is the last three paragraphs from the email that you never replied too...

 

Congrats on the new lady! Hope she treats you good... and has the will to put up with you! biggrin.gif

 

As far as I know B did not block you, but by now I am sure you have talked with him and know, whatever the story is. Did MZ get a hold of you? Carri (aka Pezzy) forwarded your email address to him. Hopefully he did contact you, but if not let me know. I'll poke him a little. Honestly, it's been a while since I have heard from him too, we were emailing/PMing a lot, but then it just kinda dried up when he stopped coming around the board as often.

 

And if you find yourself around, let me know. And if I can manage my plan of getting down there for a vacation or whatever (still want to move that way) I'll hit you up for at least a drink or something. And actually, I just got an email from another Aussie who is going to be in the states over the next couple months, he wants to meet up for lunch or a drink.

 

 

 

Take care man!

 

Scott

 

And something from a little earlier in that email

and MZ recently stepped down. I personally would have liked to see MZ stick around, but that was his choice and I respect that.

 

Doubt those quotes? Go back and look at the email!

 

So enough of your crap about how we are full of @!*%... as stated earlier you only know half the story, if even that, and are spewing forth accusations that are unfounded, seriously lacking the facts that you have always been so fond of, and simply not true.

 

As for Pezzy telling or not telling us... I can only speak for myself, but the first post in THIS thread was the first time I had heard about ANYTHING bad happening to MZ, she honored her promise and did NOT say a word to me.

 

I knew MZ was making some changes in is life, some that would alter his presence online, and was also trying to help him make a large change in his life. Like Pezzy, I'll not say what that way, just that it did not come to be. Why? Because he asked that I not say anything... if you feel the need to know what that was, ask MZ.

 

And just so you know, I tried to contact MZ during my first first break yesterday morning. I waited until then, to allow him to sleep if he was, but holding off until then was not easy, since I had just found out what happened. I figured calling him at 5-6am his time would have been a bit rude. Sadly though, he no longer has the number he gave me some time ago.

 

I hope that he will read my emails and look beyond the surface before he passes any further judgment on myself, or anyone else here... something you have thus far, not done.

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Really Steve? How about we get this one out of the way, right away!

 

This is an exact copy and paste of the last email I sent you. Sent on on April 8 2010 at 10:23PM PST This is the last three paragraphs from the email that you never replied too...

 

 

 

And something from a little earlier in that email

 

 

Doubt those quotes? Go back and look at the email!

 

So enough of your crap about how we are full of @!*%... as stated earlier you only know half the story, if even that, and are spewing forth accusations that are unfounded, seriously lacking the facts that you have always been so fond of, and simply not true.

 

As for Pezzy telling or not telling us... I can only speak for myself, but the first pot in THIS thread was the first time I had heard about ANYTHING bad happening to MZ, she honored her promise and did NOT say a word to me.

 

I knew MZ was making some changes in is life, some that would alter his presence online, and was also trying to help him make a large change in his life. Like Pezzy, I'll not say what that way, just that it did not come to be. Why? Because he asked that I not say anything... if you feel the need to know what that was, ask MZ.

 

And just so you know, I tried to contact MZ during my first first break yesterday morning. I waited until then, to allow him to sleep if he was, but holding off until then was not easy, since I had just found out what happened. I figured calling him at 5-6am his time would have been a bit rude. Sadly though, he no longer has the number he gave me some time ago.

 

I hope that he will read my emails and look beyond the surface before he passes any further judgment on myself, or anyone else here... something you have thus far, not done.

 

Sorry dude. The last I heard from you was that you were going to pass on my message to mz. I heard from him and assumed you had done what you said you were going to do. I have not read the other email(s) as I no longer have that addy or the computer. Hmmm, that explains why I had not heard back from you too.. But you knew what was happening with me. You have my addy now so use it if it pleases you. I have had contact from Pezzy and will talk to her a length soon. She is going on vacation and I am off, next week, to Japan for a couple of weeks, so it can wait. I have contact details for mz, email me. Now, stop having a cow.. as above, I have already apologised to you guys. It was wrong for me to assume you knew. Regardless of what I would have done with that information, I should not have assumed the Pezzy didn't keep it to herself.

 

So if you missed it: Once again, I am sorry to have implied (or otherwise) that you guys are arseholes etc. That some of the menbers here are arseholes, moronic even, I should not have assumed that you knew. I can't keep on saying sorry though Scotty.

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Get one thing straight.. I am not back hear at all. Graveyards bore me. There is no agenda. I do find it hard to believe that Pezzy has not said a word to anyone. She has known form the start what happened to Maciej. She would have known mz's personal and mental anguish when you guys decided to drop him as a mod... A nice kick in the guts wouldn't you say when you feel that is all you have left. mz feels like he has been dropped by you guys. And he has been... Like it or not, that's how he feels. Would you want to come back after that has happened to you? I apologise humbly if you guys honestly didn't know... I just find that hard to accept at the moment. I could not and would not keep such a secret about a friend who is obviously distressed, in pain, scared and not certain if he wants to be on the planet anymore.

 

Bernard, I know you guys had a falling out but get over it man. I never thought you a shallow person before... I still don't despite your cheap shots!

 

Scotty, you lied to me when you said you passed on my message to mz. You didn't at all.... Pezzy did. mz needs your friendship guys. He doesn't want or need any pitty or anything else. FFS, contact him and let him know that you give a fuc_!

 

And for the wannabe that sent me a personal message... Learn to spell!

 

B and RP88, you have my email address.... use it please.

 

As for the rest of you, go fourth and multiply... Not you though slick. :itsallgood:

 

If this is such a Graveyard... Why do you keep coming back?

Pezzy did what she was asked to... You won't find a better friend.

Learn to spell? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones :togo:

I hope your constant @!*% stirring brings you fond memories as you get old. :rolleyes:

 

I'm sure MZ will be thankful of your thread though, How you put aside your petty behaviour to let people know in a respectful manner.

MZ, if you happen to read this, I have had a good deal of respect for you since you nominated me in TOTM years ago.

If there is something I can help with (from the other side of the world) Don't hesitate to ask :beer:

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If this is such a Graveyard... Why do you keep coming back?

Pezzy did what she was asked to... You won't find a better friend.

Learn to spell? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones :togo:

I hope your constant @!*% stirring brings you fond memories as you get old. :rolleyes:

 

I'm sure MZ will be thankful of your thread though, How you put aside your petty behaviour to let people know in a respectful manner.

MZ, if you happen to read this, I have had a good deal of respect for you since you nominated me in TOTM years ago.

If there is something I can help with (from the other side of the world) Don't hesitate to ask :beer:

 

You must have felt really special to be nominated. If that is all that someone must do to have your respect then I nominate you as a wanker from across the Tasman. mz is well aware of this thread. He might even be thanking you for your concern as I type. He has also alerted me to half truths etc that have appeared here. But what would I know? No really, what would you know?

But you are from New Zealand though aren't you. How are the sheep bro?

It is sad to see that fools run riot here still. So for all of you that think I am uninformed, I assure you that I am not. That aside, I shan't bother to reply to such postings again. Postings such as yours clearly indicates a lack of understanding of the English language, both written and verbal. You have to learn the difference between a typo, bad gramma and literacy. After reading everything here re mz , and I am sure you must have, I find it sickening that people like you would still like to try and stick it to me rather than concentrate on the issue at hand. Take a good look at yourself cus. You are indeed pathetic. You'd do well to be the first to suggest a fund for Maciej. I could not think of a better way to show your respect. A friend doesn't wait to be asked. He sees the need and fills it.

 

Now..... If you are as you say "wanting to help" then I suggest you act and don't wait for a proud man to ask. That goes for all of you!

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"Get one thing straight.. I am not back hear at all."

 

"hear at all" that's not correct grammar either, just saying

 

Once again that is teriible what has happened to MZ

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Although your approach is not unexpected Steve, I have to say that I am severely disappointed in it... and yes, I know you don't care about that. But this could have been and may still be, turned into a very good and helpful thing for MZ, but you came in accusing and insulting everyone, along with the entire community. (Your still unable to get over it? really man, let the past go and move forward, as you are in other parts of your life)

 

Because of the method you chose and continue to employ, all your efforts seem to be accomplishing is to turn every one off to what should be a good thing for a long time member and a friend to some here.

 

I personally am still up for it and will remain that way, but the longer you continue with this, the less support people may offer. Is that right? No, it is not fair to MZ that your words get in the way and lessen any help people will offer, but the fact remains that it is happening. Step back Steve... and everyone else... stop the petty and pointless posting and take some time to reconsider how we're all going about things. Working together here makes a lot more sense than attacking each other, NPORA, or a nationality, as a whole.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MZ, if your reading this, take a look at my email (I sent it separately to three different known addresses.) If you doubt that I am a friend or anything I have said, please let me know. Lets talk about it, as it's likely just a misunderstanding that we an get by together.. if that is something that you want. But trying to do this with Steve in the middle, is posing a large obstacle between us.

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Steve, slow down. You are doing more harm than good.

 

All others, ignore the bait (goads).

 

I apologise humbly if you guys honestly didn't know... I just find that hard to accept at the moment. I could not and would not keep such a secret about a friend who is obviously distressed, in pain, scared and not certain if he wants to be on the planet anymore.

Oh, that makes it ok then...

 

Bernard, I know you guys had a falling out but get over it man. I never thought you a shallow person before... I still don't despite your cheap shots!

Please refer to the "maybe I don't know WTF I'm talking about" part above and do some thinking.

 

I'll email you so I can say a few things.

 

B

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I agree to this being a Nissan Pathfinder forum. Why this post wasn't locked or at least moved into the Dispute Resolution forum is beyond me. At least in that forum you can control who can reply and I don't have to see it in the main forum with everything else. Come on admin..

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I agree to this being a Nissan Pathfinder forum. Why this post wasn't locked or at least moved into the Dispute Resolution forum is beyond me. At least in that forum you can control who can reply and I don't have to see it in the main forum with everything else. Come on admin..

 

 

Come on admin?

 

 

Shift220, please understand that over time this forum has developed into more of a community, not just an informational site. Many friendships have developed here over time. This is one of the things that has made NPORA so great to those who now it.

 

This has to do with our history and as such has been allowed to remain. MZ, is a long time member and a valued friend who could use some help or at the least, understanding.

 

As long as it does not get out of hand then it is not a problem... treat it as any other topic that you have no interest and/or nothing to add too.. and ignore it. :aok:

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Really? I have to agree with shift220 here he has a VERY valid point about not having this topic locked or moved to a different section in the forum. I know from past events that members would have been banned and topic locked if it had been with someone else or over a different issue. Hate to play devils advocate but thats just how I see it, the mods have to play by the rules also :shrug: This guy kinda reminds me of Alex P...

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Come on admin?

 

Shift220, please understand that over time this forum has developed into more of a community, not just an informational site. Many friendships have developed here over time. This is one of the things that has made NPORA so great to those who now it.

 

This has to do with our history and as such has been allowed to remain. MZ, is a long time member and a valued friend who could use some help or at the least, understanding.

 

As long as it does not get out of hand then it is not a problem... treat it as any other topic that you have no interest and/or nothing to add too.. and ignore it. :aok:

I completely understand and agree, this forum is smaller and more family like. Everyone helps each other out without much negativity and judgment. Besides the first post being very personal and unrelated to the majority of people here (not to mention very inappropriate). This thread seems like matters involving a few individual people, but the original post was aimed as an attack on the NPORA forum community as a whole. And being in the main forum for everyone to see, reflects badly on us all.

 

And don't get me wrong, I fully support NPORA supporting those in need. The original post was hardly a request for that though.

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I agree, and sadly it is something that we have come to expect from Steve. Eventually I hope he can let the past rest, especially given the fact that NPORA then is not entirely NPORA now. One thing Steve has always thrived on, is others inability to ignore hime and brush off his comments. I understand that you may not know him, but those of us who do, know this.

 

Anyway, I understand where you are coming from. But also please understand that the dispute resolution section was created for issues involving transactions and not really for something like this. I really do wish that posts not related to the true situation would stop, including the more recent ones. Moving this the the DR section would address that but it will also seriously impair those who are involved to take part. Especially right now. Granting access to that area can only be done by an admin and as of yet we have not explored subsections within it (to allow some to post in one topic but not any others that my be in that section) and given the specific weekend we have in the US, I am not around all the time (even if it appears I am here) and the other admin is currently on vacation.

 

It's really sad that that section had to be created in the first place, when controlling such things can be accomplished by members simply making wiser decision on what and where they post. In general if you have nothing constructive to add, don't post. Or if you have no direct connection to a topic, pass on by. These simple actions by everyone here can drastically help to make NPORA as a whole a better place.

 

I agree that the general section may not be the best place for this, but given that I found this soon after it was posted and only had a few minutes to respond before leaving for the entire day for work, I left it. But I will now move it to the Off Topic section, where it may be better suited.

 

As for not locking it, I ask that you place a little trust in the Mod Team to handle things in an appropriate manner. This topic was never going to last long, but there are somethings that need to happen (given the situation) before shutting things down. This is truly an unusual case and as such things may not happened as they would normally. :aok:

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As for not locking it, I ask that you place a little trust in the Mod Team to handle things in an appropriate manner.

 

Hate to play devils advocate but thats just how I see it, the mods have to play by the rules also

See above, please.

 

B

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