Toby

I don't think the passenger seat had heated seats. Passenger side heated seats didn't really kick in a lot until the early 00's. I know a lot of cars pre-2000 that are driver's side only heated seats. luxury automakers may have had both though.

I'd like the Taurus more if it wasn't for that damn seating position. You sit too high and straight. I hate it. I don't want to lay down, but i don't want to sit like that. they are also more for show than sport. MKS has too big of a greenhouse. It's real tall and has a goofy rear. I love the front and interior of it.

You can do that all you want lol. Pretty sure there's no chance your average CTS buyer would consider the Taurus. The taurus is crude, bigger, and just not that great. They may go for the MKS rebadge. but not the Taurus. Two totally different classes though. Taurus SE starts out at about $26k. SHO at $38k. SE has a 3.5L Duratec good for 263hp. It's 202.9 inches long, 85.7 inches wide, and 60.7 inches high. CTS starts at $36,730 for the base model with RWD. the 3.6L starts at about $45k for RWD. AWD is optional across the board. 191.6 inches long, 72.5 inches wide, and 58 inches tall. Both offer 6 speed automatics. both have pretty much close to the same interior space. The trunk is alot bigger on the Taurus. But it's also longer by almost a foot and wider by 13 inches or so.

So? A used one isn't exactly the best way to judge a car. Not everyone takes great care of their vehicle. And a good percentage of cars are being repossessed from Cash 4 Clunkers and going back to dealers. the Taurus' Duratec isn't all that reliable either lol. The CTS had great trim. Not exactly on BMW level. But better than the Taurus. They aren't even in the same segment so I don't see where it matters. Ford's trim is cheaper material. Granted I like the layout of the Ford interior more. I'd much rather live with the CTS as a whole it's better.

When I was considering a new car the new CTS was one of the vehicles I looked at. So I know a bit about what I'm talking about. They are great. The engine isn't amazing. But they are great. Great interior quality, ride, fit and finish, power, handling. They are on par with what a mid-size luxury car should be. I would rather one over a pathfinder honestly. Not that I dislike pathfinders. but the VQ engine in them is a tad rough and showing it's age. the 3.6DI in the CTS is a pretty great motor. You're off your gourd to not at least acknowledge SOME respect towards the CTS. I love the looks of the Taurus. But it's still just a gussied up Ford Five Hundred. That chassis itself was a bit worrisome. And I don't like how you sit in the taurus. It's also just too big. Definitely competes more along the lines with the Charger/300, and maybe the Impala. it's not a mid-size at all. There's better mid-size cars out there. SHO is AWD. Only way to get it last I heard (and even if it wasn't, FWD?). so it'd have a bit more bite. I think they'd be on par.

CTS and Taurus aren't in the same segment. CTS and Malibu are both midsize sedans. Taurus qualifies for full-size as the fusion is their camry-fighter. I like their overall look but the interior is small for the size of that car. And yes, it's just basically new skin on an old Five Hundred chassis. I'd much rather the new CTS over the Taurus. better interior quality, fit and finish, engine, etc. I dunno if I'd rather have the Malibu. The Malibu is a nice car but it's not as good as the Fusion. Also the Charger SRT8 does o-60 in 5 seconds and a 13.5 quarter mile. Taurus SHO is 0-60 in 5.2, and quarter mile time of 13.7. It won't outrun it but it'll run just the tiniest bit slower. But if the Charger bogs the launch or the taurus has a better reaction time it's possible for it to win a drag race. I dunno if Chrysler is revamping the 6.1 hemi anymore or not.

You haven't had the problems with the pacesetters though. I don't trust them and think their customer service and quality is terrible. I'm just giving my opinion which is what this thread is about. Next?

Pacesetter's quality is just poor overall. When it comes to automotive parts you get what you pay for. and i'd recommend an oil filter relocation anyway simply based off it being RIGHT above the starter.

why is your insurance that expensive? That's ridiculously expensive. and OBX has SAE/DOT certification last I checked.

Just hold yourself out and get Thorleys. pacesetters are poor quality. Super poor. Some are good. But they usually aren't. Especially if it's for an odd model such as the 3.0 pathfinder. OBX I know is good for the S10 2.2's and such. No real opinion of their products outside of that though. Just saying. Why bother installing inferior headers that you'll end up having to replace? a lot of members here have thorleys and are extremely pleased

yeah. I dunno if the sporting goods section would sell something like that or not. Something that works. I use toothpaste on my mirror. I dunno if that'd work cause the lenses in my glasses are like plastic.

They didn't even offer me that. I got a concert sunday so i don't have time for it. just looking for a quick fix i guess

Can't touch my eyes. Even the sight of someone touching their eyes makes me come close to vomiting. I got no clue why.

spit doesn't work. Rainx has chemicals in it and gives off fumes that'll end up making you go blind. anti-fog cleaners are hit or miss. Most the ones i've tried haven't worked on my glasses but did fine on something like my paintball mask.

I go to concerts a good bit and I wear glasses. Well it's a pain being in the crowd and your glasses fogging up (not to mention gross). so I was curious as to what a good way to keep my glasses from fogging up was. I'm pretty blind so going without them isn't much of a choice. and I'd like Lasik just can't afford it right now.

I'm not putting the transfer case in my truck. Just taking it out of the old one. Hopefully i can get it out today

What's the easiest way to go about removing the front and rear driveshafts? I need to put a transfer case in my pathfinder. Found one that appears to be great in a 1994 HB from Cash 4 Clunkers. So just looking for tips and some steps on how to get them out.

My suburban has the most unfitting horn ever. When i got it inspected the horn stopped working so they replaced it. Pretty sure they got it from a beetle or something ridiculously small. Big large SUV and just this dainty horn. it's funny

Pressure buildup leaking through the gasket the fuel pump sits at? Fuel pump would kick off you'd think when the truck shuts off. Can't keep pumping fuel to a motor that isn't running. I'm not 100% i'd have to hear it to really get an idea of where it's coming from/is

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How did he get stuck in there? After being hit at speed?! and how do you go 600 miles and not notice? cute coyote though.

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I have ebay CAIs on my S10 and my Pathfinder. Need new filters but when they were new they ran quite well.

Just break the rest of the key off in there and you'll never have to insert your key again! or just try and get the broken part out and get a locksmith to make a copy.