trenton163 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I was just wondering if anyone has any experience with them? My front ends sags a lot and when I tried to tighten my torsion bars my front tires looked like "\../". I assume that just getting new ones would be better then risking my steering componets.? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 You need an alignment if it did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facebones Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 i have heard that the calmini and the sway away are the same and the sway aways are 195 on rugged rocks. AC claims their t-bars are a 30% higher spring rate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 I was just wondering if anyone has any experience with them? My front ends sags a lot and when I tried to tighten my torsion bars my front tires looked like "\../". I assume that just getting new ones would be better then risking my steering componets.? Thanks your tires will do that no-matter what t-bar you use. You need to align them after lifting. typically tires go top in when you crank the bars for a lift (LCA sloping down toward wheel) so yours musta been sagged so much they were top in (LCA sloping down toward frame)and the PO had it aligned like that. so when You brought it up to level(LCA parallel to ground) they went top out because of the previous alignment. I am very happy with my stock t-bars and may not get anything differant unless I add bumpers and winches up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Yep, My1path is on the money. When I begin the fab process of the front bumper, I will more than likely have to replace my t bars to deal with the sag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenton163 Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share Posted June 21, 2010 So if I tighten my torsion bars and then align my wheels it shouldn't damage my steering components? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 In theory any adjustment to the front end OTHER than factory spec's will accelerate wear on the components. However if you use aftermarket UCA's that correct ball joint angles, and don't crank too much, the wear is reduced but still going to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 (edited) So if I tighten my torsion bars and then align my wheels it shouldn't damage my steering components? Look @ your lower control arms. if they slope inward toward the frame at all, you should tighten them and then get an alignment. if they are parallel to the ground or just barely sloped down toward the wheel then you are sitting stock and an alignment will help preserve your steering components. Before aligning Make sure its level left to right by using the ride height measuring guie I posted.... ... somewhere... http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=25794&view=findpost&p=474169 Edited June 21, 2010 by MY1PATH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenton163 Posted June 22, 2010 Author Share Posted June 22, 2010 Okay, thanks for all the info guys! I don't know what I would do without NPORA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Me either, I love these guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrano757 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hey just thought id jump in on this thread since i have the same problem, my front is an easy 2-3cm lower (top of wheel to bottom of wheel arch) im getting a full new suspension system soon, (including torsions) this should effectively level the car shouldn't it? im assuming because the front suspension has been in for almost 20 years without modification, and has been put through some serious 4x4 hell (and done well) that the heavy engine is slowely weighing the front down more than the suspension can push back up. anyway im no expert so look forward to your reply's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 If your bars have never been re-indexed and the front is sitting extremely low then I would start there *instructions can be found in the Garage section*, that will likely solve the problem. Of it's sitting fairly close to where it should be, but it's just not the same on both sides then cranking up the low side, or turning down the high side (depending on where it sits overall, right now) will take care of it. That said, if you intend on replacing the t-bars soon, no matter what condition the stock ones are in, then let it be until you swap in the new bars. Otherwise your just doing the work twice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrano757 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 yeah ive had a play around with them adjusting them up a bit, but its still resembles a drag car, however new suspension all round should be in tomorrow hopefully that solves the problem will post here with my findings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavefromOZ Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Daniel, if its not level and you want to re-index let me know, I did mine a couple of weeks ago. Its pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Yep re-indexing can make a world of difference, and bring new life back to your torsion bars and front end. Not saying that it changes them magically into new bars or anything. But that it will bring the spring rate up in theory because it certainly will twist em more as you crank them up. Aarons right up is wicked good regarding re-indexing, and it is simple to do with minor tools. If you are getting new bars, me being a glutton for punishment, but also a perfectionist...would say: Try re-indexing the front BEFORE you replace the bars...it will give you an idea of how it all works and on top of that will give you some experience with the IFS under our trucks before you dive into it... Its relatively simple, you can do it! Good luck man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrano757 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Thanks guys, really appreciate the replies, (really starting to like this forum) @dave- Yeah i read up on aarons tutorial, looks easier than i thought @tmoore- yeah i might just take ur advice there if i can manage to find the time, but i agree it would definately be worth it in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Aaron is the man...hadnt seem him around much...but hey, we all work...wait I hope so...haha Dude these trucks are a total learning process... And I am jealous of your Terrano!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrano757 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 haha really tmoore? urs is far better, i wish i had that 3" body lift that uve got on urs, but id never be able to install it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneZ Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 haha really tmoore? urs is far better, i wish i had that 3" body lift that uve got on urs, but id never be able to install it.. The 3" body lift is not that hard to install, You can do it with a decent jack basic tools, a few jack stands. I did the process alone so its not that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Yea man, its relatively simple. I posted a crap load of pics on my site covering most of the process. I had a buddy, but it is totally doable by oneself like BoneZ advised. If I lived on your island I would come help! And mine is just a good truck, who really decides what is better? Not me...I can see things on nearly EVERY members rig that I wish I had on mine...its just a preference thing dude. I wish mine said Terrano on the back, because nobody has that...haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I did mine by myself, not hard at all That is, as long as you don't have an problem bolt issues. Hose down all bolts with a penetrating oil (11-2 X's a day) for a few days to a week before starting, just to help reduce the chance of a problem. And since yours is a 2Dr, you should not have the rear bolt issue that many 4Dr owners encounter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavefromOZ Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 We arent suppose to go any more than 50mm lift here in West Oz, but that hasnt stopped me from going 4-5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Yep, I had some issues with getting the rear bolts to line up, but it worked out in the end...MUCH easier with my buddy there. TN is a redneck state...no lift restrictions (that are enforced.) LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrano757 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 haha oh true,, but right no i dont think i can afford even a cheap lift kit haha maybe sometime in the future, ps: just spent a solid day working on the car check out photos on my page thing: http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=27104&st=0&gopid=502489entry502489 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavefromOZ Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 haha oh true,, but right no i dont think i can afford even a cheap lift kit haha maybe sometime in the future, ps: just spent a solid day working on the car check out photos on my page thing: http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=27104&st=0&gopid=502489entry502489 Body lift can be done really cheap if you know someone with access to a toolshop and 50mm ali solid round bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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