Mr. Pickles Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 I've got a 4 door with the rear spare and all the weight, including a sub box, and I got about 2 1/2 inches lift. Could be that my old springs were really sagging though. You could also install air shocks to give you a little boost. They're pretty cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeytattoo Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Hey 88 I saw this and wen't out to a near by U-pull it yard got a set of springs put em on cranked my t-bars till the thing was level and what a difference it rides a bit bumpy but that isnt anything bigger tires wont soffen thanks. JOEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest audiosportconcepts Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I have an 88 w/ the rear tire carier (not anymore, cause i smoothed it), but stock that thing sagged wicked, i'm sure it didn't help with my 200 lb sub box in the back. But anyways I put the f-100 springs in, but instead of cutting the pigtail off, i bent it out to the 4" diameter that i needed, and my stock shocks are all the way extended, with no more room. I fully cranked the torsions up, and it still sits 1.5" lower than the back, I have never re- indexed torsions before, is it worth the hassle, or should I just go out and get the ball joint spacers? -thnkboutit- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I don't think you're going to want to use the Ball joint spacers, unless you have aftermarket Upper control Arms, or you'll end up like 88's Pathy with the bent UCA's. Better off to buy aftermarket UCA's, reindex your T-bars, and crank away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest audiosportconcepts Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 you mean with out getting the spacers at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Exactly......no need for spacers if you get new UCA's. Most aftermarket ones are made to allow for more natural angles of the ball joint, same as if you added a spacer to your current UCA's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest audiosportconcepts Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Hey Thanx you've been real helpfull, I printed out 88's profile on re-indexing and i think i'll give her a whirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth1 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 There's been some talk lately of using aftermarket lift springs for a JGC. There are some front coil springs available at partsamerica.com for Grand Cherokees with 2 and 3 inch lifts. Can anyone confirm using these to lift a pathy? It would be hard to guess how much lift they would give. I know anything about 3" over stock will start to make the rear higher than the front but I wouldn't mind an inch or so higher in the back. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted April 28, 2005 Author Share Posted April 28, 2005 Well, if normal front JGC springs give a Pathy 2-3" of lift, unmodified 3" JGC lift springs would give you 5-6" of lift in the rear...I'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Getalilmudonthetires Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 Hey all, I tried putting the ford springs in my 92 Pathfinder i bought them brand new their moog springs and i got at least 3inches maybe even 4" lift in the rear now and i found it so easy to do following the instructions from the damagedreality website thanks everyone who put all the information together everything was pretty helpfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSh Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 How sure are you about the lift for the 4 door pathfinders with wheel carier. I want to do one of these sping lifts but am only looking for 1-1.5 inch of extra lift. Is there any way in can make the springs smaller if i get to much lift. Must sound weird about not wanting the full amount but i drive my truck pretty hard and without being able to get aftermarket steeing upgrades (living in Australia) im sure i will be breaking tire rods and the like left, right an centre with any lift above 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 If the springs give you more lift that you want, you can cut them down to make them shorter. That will also drop the amount of lift they give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I read your write up 2 times b 4 I did my JGC coil conversion.... I paid $70 for both coils brand new from krangen.. and for some unknown reason.. my coils were slightly different.. but without the tire carrier on my 4 door I got almost 4" of lift... I must be one of the lucky ones. Thanks 88!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoohaa Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Has anyone had any experience with using other coils? I have heard of people using early bronco 5.5" lift coils for 6" of lift on the WD21, and YJ lift coils, but I haven't heard any other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 iv got a set of coils from a 93 jgc, and im waiting for a 2 inch body lift to show up at my doorstep from ebay, but before i get too far into lifting my pathfinder (a 94 xe) what about break lins, park breaks fuel lines and shocks? ill probably pick up some rancho's or trailmaster shocks anyways cause mine are still the originals, but what about the lines? anyone know? thanks will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Pickles Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 iv got a set of coils from a 93 jgc, and im waiting for a 2 inch body lift to show up at my doorstep from ebay, but before i get too far into lifting my pathfinder (a 94 xe) what about break lins, park breaks fuel lines and shocks? ill probably pick up some rancho's or trailmaster shocks anyways cause mine are still the originals, but what about the lines? anyone know? thankswill Far as I've heard, you don't have to do extensions on any of those with a 2" kit. I did 3" and only had to extend the fuel filler hose and relocate the power steering reservoir a bit, both covered in the instructions for the Performance Accessories body lift. No biggie at all. So I think you should be OK. Replacing the coils doesn't involve the lines either, other than being careful not to stretch the brake lines or E brake cable when lowering the axle. I simply removed the bolt holding the brake line guides on either side to allow some slack, then lowered the axle with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 perfect, thanks alot. i went into the nissan dealersihp in the area, cause the parts manager drives a 94 nissan pickup with a big bunch of lift on it, and he said the same thing. there are mounts that hold hte lines to the body and the frame and to jut unbold them to have enough play. thanks tho ill post pictures when its done. ( 2 inch body lift, jgc coils , torsion bars and 33's_ i cant wait!!!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Pickles Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Right on. Those rear coils really are super easy and straight forward. Look for 88pathoffroad's instructions, or just follow common sense (unbolt lower shock mount and brake cable guides, etc.), watch the brake lines and e brake cable, etc. I had the springs in and mounted in maybe 45 min. taking my time. Be sure to post any pics or questions, and good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 i keep hearing people using the front coils from a jgc. what about the rear coils, will they work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted November 27, 2005 Author Share Posted November 27, 2005 Rear JGC coils are a lot shorter than the fronts. You do the math and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 okay i understand. i got the coils from a friend of mines boss, ho replaced the coils in his charokee, and he told me the longer of the coils were the backs. so i was kinda thinking if the short ones ould lift it a bit, then wouldnt hte longer ones do a better job??? but i figgurerd id ask first haha. but that makes sence now thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest will Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 what about shocks too. like..hat is the length of shocks i should be putting on ith a 2 inch body lift and the jgc coils???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 i think with body lift too.. rancho 9000's. i have the rancho 5000's but no lift other than the jgcc and cranked t-bars some peeps also love their bilsteins, pro comps.... there are several shocks to choose from ranging from $80 for a pair up to $150 a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted December 28, 2005 Author Share Posted December 28, 2005 ONCE AGAIN, rear Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 coils are SHORTER than the fronts. The boss is wrong or has a different vehicle if they're longer in the rear. Actually, only ZJ's and Wranglers have coils front and rear, so that narrows down the selection. Do not use standard Cherokee 6-cyl front springs, they will not give you any lift. You can keep the stock shocks on, but they'll top out and eventually they'll pop a seal from it. Get replacement shocks for the rear that are between 22 and 25 inches long fully extended, like a pair of Rancho RS5112's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rolling Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 ok i have figured out most of the ackronyms except: "jgc" what does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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