Yendor Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Are there different ones made up for a manual and auto tranny? There's someone in my local area who is selling them brand new for $200 and they are ceramic coated. He said that they are only for a manual tranny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 No difference. They'll fit your auto just fine. I have a set on my 95LE with auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Just make sure they are for a 90+, the MPI and TBI engines have different EGR systems and the headers are plumbed different for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yendor Posted March 22, 2010 Author Share Posted March 22, 2010 Well, the add says it for an 87 Nissan truck or Pathfinder. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/pts/1643204542.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 They won't work. Not because of your transmission, but because of the difference in the motors between the 87-89, and 90+ WD21's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I was recently at the pacesetter site and there were different part numbers for the 95 pathy with auto and manual trannys. The 1198's are for MT, the 1197's are AT. http://www.pacesetterexhaust.com/headers_truck.php Hardbody 4WD/5 spd,Pathfinder/ 5 spd 90-95 V6 1-1/2" 2" 1, 3, 6 G7175 70-1198 72C1198 Hardbody/ Pathfinder, 4WD, auto 90-95 3.0L, V6 1-1/2" 2" 2, 3, 6 G7175 70-1197 72C1197 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 For those who have these headers, are you happy with them? I was looking into getting a set. I have a perfect exhaust right now but would love to give my pathy a little more pep and nice sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I have them and I hate them. They take up too much room on my garage floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 For those who have these headers, are you happy with them? I was looking into getting a set. I have a perfect exhaust right now but would love to give my pathy a little more pep and nice sound. I've had worse luck with them than good. I'd stay away personally because you get what you pay for. You go cheap on engine internals, and they break right? Why is your exhaust any different? I've seen alot of good luck around here with Thorley. But honestly it's your money, go with what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I had no trouble with them on my 93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Mine, so far, have been good. Though, they've only been on 3 months or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovemaN Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 No problems with them on my '92. Still waiting to install a new set on my '95. Not looking forward to the stud extraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I've seen alot of good luck around here with Thorley. But honestly it's your money, go with what you want. I'll add this too; I have heard of more than one person have weld issues where the pipes meet the flange for the head, as well as needing to get the flange machined flat on the Thorleys. They are a little stouter (.02 thicker tube IIRC), and have more coating options, but aren't really better in the quality stand point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 At least the y-pipe hole isn't the size of a quarter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Simon, grimgreg, and koveman, did you guys notice any power/gas mileage increases at all? I would like to get a set but it will take more than the sound to sell me on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I noticed a slight increase in MPG, though, that could be attributed to the extreme leak I had at the manifold flange before I installed the headers. Other than that, there's a little better throttle response, a little more low end torque, and an overall smoother delivery of power across the RPM range. My headers are paired with a hi-flow exhaust system, so I'm not sure if JUST adding headers to an otherwise stock exhaust would help as much. Just don't expect miracles, and you should be happy with them if you decide to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Well the exhaust I have now is 2" instead of the stock 1.5 or w/e it is. I have no leaks right now so maybe I will wait a bit and do some other stuff first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovemaN Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I also went with a new converter and cat-back exhaust when I installed the headers. Throttle response was definitely improved. Mileage was hard to tell since the sound made my right foot heavier. What I liked the best was how the truck seemed to snarl and growl with little blips of the throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I'll add this too; I have heard of more than one person have weld issues where the pipes meet the flange for the head, as well as needing to get the flange machined flat on the Thorleys. They are a little stouter (.02 thicker tube IIRC), and have more coating options, but aren't really better in the quality stand point. i've only had one pair that hasn't been garbage and the good pair I've had is the only one i've seen out of all my friends who have had the headers that hasn't been junk. You're about the only person i've ever seen defending them. Thorleys are wayyyyy better in terms of quality. Just my personal experience with pacesetter is enough to keep me from buying their products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creekkid Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Well, the add says it for an 87 Nissan truck or Pathfinder. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/pts/1643204542.html Yeah I emailed that guy too. 200 bucks ain't too bad. If you know how to fab, you can probably make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 You're about the only person i've ever seen defending them. Mine, so far, have been good. Though, they've only been on 3 months or so. No problems with them on my '92. Still waiting to install a new set on my '95. Not looking forward to the stud extraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 i don't see anything bad with them in fact they have a pretty good design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwmyers23 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Does anybody have any pics of there pacesetter headers installed? I just wanted to see how far down and back they go. I'm getting ready to order a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macboy212 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I bought some last month - wasn't impressed with the shotty welding job, so I sent em back. I'm saving my money for thorley's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I have heard good and bad about the PS headers. But then again, the same about the Thorley's. I need to replace my manifolds as they leak bad, and headers are the logical choice...just not 100% sold on what to go with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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