MY1PATH Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 no way did I use a fork or hammer! lol. My box already leaks from the worm gear seal, I dont need another leak from the pitman arm seal. Good,you keeps the 2 little fingers on the shaft that hold that top screw intact.(pinion height ajuster) they like to break when ppl try to beat the arms off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATHRIDER Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 I cant seem to find this kind of pitman arm remover anymore...You guys have any idea where I can get one J 6632-01 Pitman Arm Remover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastpath Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Ok guys, I got the hoohaa centerlink and manual box all installed. Feels a lot tighter but I seem to have an issue. While driving to work I noticed when I turn the wheel it stays pointed in that direction when I let go. I have to physically turn the wheel back to the straight ahead position. It does not automatically recenter itself straight ahead. Also, when moving straight forward the wheel is very unstable - as in I have to keep compensating to keep it in the straight position. (alignment maybe? I only did an eyeball, will get a proper one on Monday) Both of these make it kind of stressful to drive. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATHRIDER Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 (edited) I was going to ask last night on the pitman shaft tightness on that manual steering box..Is there an adjustment where it can be torqued to proper tightness? Is that manual steering box pretty much self adjusting? Did you check the play on the pitman arm spinning it 360 degrees making sure its not binding up before it was connected to the center link? Edited April 24, 2010 by PATHRIDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastpath Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 The pitman on the dummy box is easy to turn without the worm gear. You can twist it by hand. It physically wont spin 360 even with the worm shaft out as the gear teeth get in the way. As for the power steering box I honestly didnt check for binding, but it moves well enough when I turn the wheel - in fact its more responsive than it was. When I was doing stuff I did loose some power steering fluid when I undid the adjuster nut at the top. Could it be lack of pressure that is making it not turn back to center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovemaN Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Sounds like air in the system. It should work its way out. The floating feeling could be from the toe being out of adjustment. If you set it neutral the steering will wander. It needs just under 1/4" toe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 not centering... how tight did you get the 7/8" bolts? (40-45ftbls, go 40 then turn till the cotter pin will slide in) the sperical bushings on the hoohaa may need to break in? aligments are recomended any time a front end part is changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastpath Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 (edited) 7/8" bolts? you mean the hoohaa clink bolts? The website stated 90-100ftlbs. yeah, I know I need an alignment - had to go to work though. Edited April 25, 2010 by beastpath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRich Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I cant seem to find this kind of pitman arm remover anymore...You guys have any idea where I can get one J 6632-01 Pitman Arm Remover This is the puller I have, it works great on everything I have used it on so far. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=10316&group_ID=1245&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog Your issue sounds like the pitman arm may be rubbing on the center link. You may have to put a washer in between to space them apart. Also if the two spherical inner races are not touching together they may be binding which will screw them up. Before you put the bolt through did you look inside to see if there was a space between the races? James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Oh man...maybe this will be the answer to my terrible steering issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Okay guys, so I have hunted all the local yards, and even went as far as checking online, in the immediate area I could not find a late 80's to early 90's manual steering gear box for this mod. What I was able to come up with, was a 94 HB manual gear box, which has the large shaft/spline pitman. The only drawback is that the box is not that much smaller than the power steering gear box I have already on the pathfinder. So, a little bit of measuring and I believe I can solve the fitment issues, because the way it sits now, even with the 3 inch BL, it won't fit right... I plan on trimming the case as shown (by the red line) and welding a plate back over the exposed section, after removing the worm gear and other corresponding parts. I will probably drill and tap said plate, and install a plug for adding fluid if necessary. The good thing about this massive box, is it has the LARGE shaft just like my power steering box, and I already have another power steer pitman arm, from a 94 Pathfinder. So the added strength of having BOTH large shaft boxes, merely increases the chance of NOT failing any time soon... Here is a pic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Go for it Be patient with the welding and use something thin like 1/16~1/8 for the plate. The case is cast so it may provide a small challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Okay, got the whole unit tore down to just an empty case. The pitman (think that's what it is called) seal is leaking, so that will have to be replaced. Just gotta find a daggum place that sells one...before I yank it out, as a last resort and cross numbers over... Hopefully will will have the case chopped and welded in the next few days, I can literally feel the excitement of having her back on the road...man, the anticipation of this is wicked! Any suggestions on the seal? Time for sleep...kids start school tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) Okay, brief update: The manual box out of a 1994 2wd HB pickup WILL work without chopping the case. My initial measurements were flawed due to an excess of unnecessary items in the way. (IE body lift bumper relo bracket, trans lines, etc.) Once those items were moved or removed, the box was test fitted, and then notched out appropriately in order to utilize all four mounting bolts. The cap was welded, and the box along with the hoohaa, two pitman arms and some TRE adjustment sleeves were sandblasted and are now awaiting powder coating at my buddies shop... Ready to be sandblasted, the pitman that is colored was rattle canned to see how the blue would look. All sandblasted and ready to powder coat. Still hunting a seal...hopefully today.... Edited August 13, 2010 by tmoore4512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Well no luck on the seal. So to the dealer I went. 11 bucks later I have a piece of paper telling me that my seal will be here next week. Nice. Another freakin few days on jack stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 IF you have a bearing shop in your town like mcguire bearing, they can look one up by the number and brand printed on the seal or by measurement and pull one from stock. thats where I got my seal from, it was only a few bucks and done the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 We do, and they couldn't do jack. I called timkin while at AutoZone tonight, and they were no help either. So I rifled through some of the seals we have in the back, and found some that were CLOSE but were either too tight or too loose. Just went ahead and ordered the Nissan part...better safe than sorry...frustrating as hell to be this close and stuck...grrr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 So over a year later, and still going strong. The dummy box is awesome, and VERY strong. Anyone thinking of doing this, PM me and I will walk you through it if you don't understand all the mumbo jumbo of MY1PATH and I... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasdakota Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 so, since i have a RHD, i could fit a LHD steering box easily inplace of my IA, right? (since my IA is on the LH side of my frame) sorry, in a rush, didnt read through all this thread, this may have been covered... love the idea though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 yes you can and you would not need to slot the holes at all. (read thread later) But do you wanna pay someone to SHIP you a LHD box or are there some available in your area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasdakota Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 yes you can and you would not need to slot the holes at all. (read thread later) But do you wanna pay someone to SHIP you a LHD box or are there some available in your area? yes, i read through the thread now, i know what your talking about... no, i probably wouldnt want to pay for shipping, those things are probably a little heavy. i would wait till i found one @ the scrapyard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Mine will be available soon... bout to SAS the old leaky bastard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmoore4512 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Finally finished the write up on my steering install... Please let me know if I missed something... It can be found here: http://www.torymoore.com/pathfinder/steering.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahardb0dy Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 any updates on the durability of this mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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