Extreme90path Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Ok, so my gas gage doesent work, because the the resistor problem, and till I have time to fix it I have just be relying on the gas light to know when to get gas. Well, today I pushed the limits too far (on the way to get gas) and ran out. So, I get Gas in it and I crank it over, it backfires into the intake, and then it doesent even try to start. So next, I keep turning it over, but nothing. Not even an attempt. I get ahold of Tbecktold, and he helps me from here. We add aprox. 2 more gals of gas, then try and start it. It has fuel Pressure, and it has spark. So i dunno what else it could be. We pulled codes but there were none. So We let it set for awhile, (aprox 3 hours) and we go to start it, it tries for 1/2 sec, then nothing again. So what I am thinking is possibly flooded? I have the factory Shop manual, and I check the Diagnosis area, and it gave me: Clogged fuel filter/line (plunty of pressure and flow) Pressure Regulator Regulator Vacume hose clog Spark Plugs wet w/ fuel Throttle Valve Clogged Ignition Timing But yeah, So i am thinking it's flooded... any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 wet plugs, clogged fuel filter.. if it's flooded you'd smell the gas under the hood bad.. open the ait filter and let it air out. starting fluid? not too much though, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbecktold Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 One thing Ben's forgetting to mention here is that every time we let it sit, even for an hour or so, it'll act like it wants to fire once right off, then just cranks and cranks and cranks. To me, it doesn't sound like it wants to turn over real well after that first time, but I'm not positive on that. I think we're gonna pull a plug or two tomorrow to check them out, but I'm pretty much stumped. It's putting out good fuel pressure too, or seems like it to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 (edited) Well if it's flooded the simplest way to fix it is to just take out the fuel pump relay, crank it until it catches. Then slap the relay back in. Edited August 8, 2006 by Filthy Luker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagwoodzz Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Ok, so my gas gage doesent work, because the the resistor problem, and till I have time to fix it I have just be relying on the gas light to know when to get gas. Had a truck once with busted fuel gauge. Tripped the odometer every fill-up. When odometer got to 200 I re-filled. This kept me from running out of gas and kept fill-ups less than $20. Worked pretty good at the time. Need to warn you that gas was barely $1/gal at that time. Your lucky to get 100miles for $20 bucks of gas these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Had a truck once with busted fuel gauge. Tripped the odometer every fill-up. When odometer got to 200 I re-filled. This kept me from running out of gas and kept fill-ups less than $20. Worked pretty good at the time. Need to warn you that gas was barely $1/gal at that time. Your lucky to get 100miles for $20 bucks of gas these days. because i have had to deal with that before i still reset the trip meter every fill up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vengeful Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 I reset the trip odo every fill-up, too. Helps me to more accurately keep a log of my purchases and track fuel economy. Which has spiked +3mpg freeway since I took off my roof rack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
govols74n Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Id hook some jumper cables up and keep cranking that bad boy (so it doesnt wear your battery down) to get the fuel flowing through the lines again.... it will take time so be patient. Start fluid (ether in a can) in the intake might help too like someone said previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Id hook some jumper cables up and keep cranking that bad boy That will only insure that you overheat the starter or start frying wires. They are meant only for REALLY low duty cycles, NOT to run constantly... As Luker said, pull the fuel relay. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbecktold Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Already tried jumping it, no change. It has a deep cycle Orbital in it anyway, so it does pretty well that way. Pulled the fuel relay at lunch, didn't change anything. Unless we were supposed to pull it, then disconnect the battery so the computer would reset itself or something. I'm waiting for Ben to call me and I'll go pick him up, then we're gonna pull a plug or two, and maybe try the ether thing as well. We're supposed to get golf ball size hail this evening, so that may curtail some Pathy work. If nothing else, we'll see if we can squeeze both Nissans into my shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
govols74n Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 That will only insure that you overheat the starter or start frying wires. They are meant only for REALLY low duty cycles, NOT to run constantly... As Luker said, pull the fuel relay. B I guess I shouldnt have said keep cranking...lol...I didnt mean hold the key in the on position...oops. Just meant to keep trying to start it but guess that didnt work anyway. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbopath Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) push the pedal to the floor to put the truck in clear flood mode and crank it. Then let off and try again and it should start. Edited August 9, 2006 by turbopath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme90path Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 Ok, so we pulled plugs. I need new ones, but they are not wet at all (w/ fuel) I also checked pressure again, and I do not have a gage, so I am testing it w/fingers which is not very accurate, but close enough. So I actually am thinking it is the pump. So as I have had a long day, I am pulling the tank tomarrow. (Suckage) and inspecting it. If I am lucky the prescreen is all clogged, and that's the only problem. But rarely am I so lucky. Filthy, thanks for the advice on the relay, but now that I know its starving rather the drowning.... haha.....so I'll let you know what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme90path Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 clear flood mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Lift the carpet in the back and you will find an access panel. remove that and presto.. we have fuel pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme90path Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 I LOVE YOU MAN!!!! I was sooooo afraid of havening to drop the tank... that is a Godsend post!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_stryker Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 he does that from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) Now the bad news.... not ALL Pathys have them. I was told that by an old timer at a dealer. he also said that there seemed to be no rhyme or reason behind it but he had seen some without. Since then I alway's look (out of curiosity) when I am at wrecking yards and have personally seen only one that did not have one. But the odds of yours not having one are next to none, so I would not worry about it and just pull up that carpet Edited August 9, 2006 by RedPath88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 he does that from time to time I'm as confused about it as you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme90path Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 Excellent... I am really happy now. I will cross my fingers during carpent removal... haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_stryker Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 so he could be wrong....and u already said u love him...now you cant take it back if its not there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme90path Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 dang... I'm screwed w/ that one... if it's there I love him... if it's not I hate him... for bringing me up the slamming me down haha.... blue balled by the pathy... arg.... hopefully not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Feel free to take it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme90path Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 right on red... I feel no obligation now... ... to hate or love... haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 before you monkey with the pump pu in new plugs and try starting again. i had this same issue once.. i exchanged for new plugs and it fired right away. you didn't say but i am guessing you do have the spark, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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