yeah, in the ceiling? i shopped around to find a speaker that'd fit.. alpine seems to be the only one.. the back ones still don't fit perfectly.. i still need to put like some washers or something to take care of a gap between the speaker lip and the "frame".. mine are actually not screwed in at all.. couldn't find any screws/bolts that would fit at the time i messed with them and that was over a year ago.. the plastic grills hold them in place just fine and i have done my share of jarring.
i did find paper ones just like the original Clarions at NAPA for like $20 or something a pair.. i