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ahhh i gotcha, k thanks man.

ah yes! thanks for all the replies everyone. i am going to swap springs over tomorrow. i have a gut feeling it will work, i hope im right lol. i must say though my pathy rides MUCH nicer ON and OFF road with these springs. on the road it is more stable and soaks up bumps on the straight and mid corner better with less body roll (have no rear anti roll bar). off road i can go on average 10-15km/h faster with the same amount of control on a logging road up to a local trail i test my mods with. it soaked up the harsh potholes MUCH nicer and kept more control when hitting them at speed. pretty impressed for 50 bucks i gotta say. hopefully i can just get them level now and i will be a happy man. i did also replace the shocks with just monroe cheap replacements for a ford bronco II front and ford f350 rear. whatever rates they are, they compliment cranked t bars and jgc springs very nicely with the damping rates. my vehicles does not bounce at all, the bumps are damn near perfectly damped. pretty damn good ghetto setup. lol

well i drove it to a parking lot and tried it there and it was still sitting uneven when i looked from the rear. hmm. i will try tomorrow to lift it back up and see if i can shift the spring around so it will sit even like the other side... when i was putting the new springs in i could barely compress it to get it back in the spot so i was also thinking 40-50 lbs of weight shouldnt matter on one side....i must have been pulling down at least 100 lbs of pressure just to get it to compress the half inch i needed to get it into the spring perch... it must be how the spring is sitting differently, i am also going to swap the springs side for side when i reseat them and see what happens and if the other side gets lifted up.... might as well give it a shot while i have it lifted up again.

hmmm maybe i did do the lower side in reverse now you got me thinkin... i gunna double check... im pretty sure they are both going up, both of yours looked pinched eh? hmmm..... **edit: nope both uncut sides are down and seated into the lower part the same...**

lol previous owner backed it into a tree so it has an SE hatch on a XE truck. and yeah thanks for clearing it up i get that when the suspension is fully unloaded that the passenger wheel will droop more. but the truck does sit uneven when it is on the ground. both springs were installed in the same direction with the cut ends up. i used the uncut ends on the bottom as thats where i could line it up so they would both be the same. i do have my jack/spare tire on the side that is lower. do u think that is enough weight to throw it off that much ??? and that panhard angle is when the rear axle was unloaded fully so i could get the springs in and out, that is not ride height???. when its sitting on the ground it only has a slight pitch to it... should i have the cut ends pointing down and the uncut sides on the upper part ???

i also thought the panhard drop down bracket is to fix side to side location... not ride height...???

this is normal right? the one side flexed more than the other?

the ride height is different from side to side by one full inch. heres some pics. drivers side sits lower. passenger side is higher. driver side measure 9 1/4 from top of tire to top of fender well. passenger side has 10 inches on the dot from top of tire to top of fender well. this is the side that is lower (looks seated nicely) this is the side thats higher, i can see it denting the rubber where the end of the spring sits high side. low side. maybe it's just an illusion but the coils seem compressed more on the low side? looks like its sitting more flush with the spring perch and the high side seems like its still going on an angle upwards and is denting into the rubber more, why is that? i think that is where my issue lies...

okay I just double checked the springs looked seated properly. the only thing i can tell that looks a little different on the two is this... The upper coil seems like it is squishing down more on the side thats lower... like it seems like it looks more like the bottom as in the coil is flattened more parallel to the upper spring mount. the side that is higher looks like the upper coil is on more of an angle and didnt flatten out as much? as in the end of the spring hasnt flattened to seat around the spring mount as much as the other side. the edge of of spring coil is kind of still angled up and pushing hard on a spot on the rubber. did the spring bind into the rubber isolator when i put the weight back down ? i would think it would still flatten out and adjust itself to where it should be ... hmm hard to describe ill see if i can get a picture of it that u can see what i mean....

dowser when you say undo the panhard bar. you mean undo it and then re tighten it right? lol will it shift position a little ? or is this just to diagnose...?

see thats the problem.... its the passenger side that is higher. by close to an inch

also i remember in the junkyard the one spring was unloaded and sitting free and the other spring still had weight bearing on it from the shock being attached. maybe the one spring still needs to settle(the one that was unloaded) ? just a thought...

the springs are definitely same diameter i pulled them off a jeep and they still had the yellow paper tags with the part number on them and they were the same. hmm.. it seems to have levelled out slightly since driving it but its still off a bit. i believe the springs are seated properly i did line the bottoms of the springs up to where the oem springs where i could see the marks in the dirt lol so i put them back to the same spot on the bottoms... hmm one sec ill go double check the tops are seated the same... i noticed when i jacked up the rear to take them out one side flexed more than the other as in when my jack maxed out one tire was off the ground and the other was still touching and i could visibly see it was extendding the shock further.. the ebrake cable was tight but i could move it with my hands so it wasnt THAT tight i doubt it was holding the weight of that wheel off the ground... but the shock was extended more on the side that *didnt* lift off the ground. is there supposed to be more flex on the passenger side wheel? or am i just tripping and it was the ebrake cable holding the driver side rear wheel up off the ground...?? anyways the side that flexed more happens to be the side that is sitting higher if that matters.... **edit: i did reuse the upper spring isolator and i am running ford f350 rear shocks with much longer than stock extension travel**

Hey everyone. I installed my JGC springs today and when i dropped the rear back down to my dismay it was sitting uneven!!. i checked the front clearances and they are bang on at 8.5 inches from tire to roof of fender well. the rear i have 10 inches from top of tire to top of fender well on one side and 9 inches on the other. it is visibly off. can't tell from the front but can tell from the rear. are the 2 front jeep springs different spring rates ?? could they be this uneven if i made my cuts 1/16th of an inch off??? im confused here the 2 pigtails were exactly the same size after i cut them.... was thinking of swapping the springs side for side... to see what that does... maybe try that and see if maybe it's sitting lower cause of my spare tire on the one side in my trunk?? my truck has more weight on one side or something? maybe swap the springs side for side so the one thats higher has the spare tire weight over it and then cut the taller spring bit by bit until it sits level ? just throwing out my ideas !! thanks if anyone has any insight.

I just had my seats out yesterday. 93 xe that came with cloth seats. swapped in some leathers (non power) and i noticed the harness plug was right there to be plugged in on both sides. not sure about the one in the dash but there area few loose harnesses when iw as doing my stereo that i had to move out of the way, maybe it's one of them. by the way, where is the location of the factory heated seat switch ?

Lol. you took off your skidplate to brake clean your gas tank? now that is devotion! closest u will see me in there is with the end nozzle of the local gas station pressure washer i tip my hat to you good sir. lol

Looked at my JGC springs... looked at the rain.... decided a smaller project is in order.... so... Pulled the front leathers and sewed up the large rips in the driver seat and threw on some seat covers. all the seats look nice now! and the rips were so bad in the driver seat its actually more comfortable now.... lol sigh I really want to find some nice clean black leather heated seats....

Dude the easiest way is to crack the coolant bleeder bolt on the intake manifold...fill fluid in the rad until fluid comes out the bleeder hole....put bolt back in... perfectly bled coolant system every time. that is why it's there after all.

Lol I know guys but they are in australia keep in mind. its all nissans over there!! lol. i know its just a joke. i just thought it was funny. it was a 700$ pathy.

Anybody see this?? Freakin awesome!! lol

Installed 5" round Phase Linear speakers I had sitting around in the front doors and some 5"x7" MTX Thunders in the rear headliner. Muuuuuch better! Amp and sub go in tomorrow and now it is officially comfortable to drive again.

by the way dude. i LOVE your Z!!!! seriously that thing is epic man. totally digging the style too, right down my alley. I have a 91 S13 Fastback and a 90 Z32 Slicktop, as well as the WD21. way to show the nissan sports car love!! I really want to find a clean enough 240/280 to build... that is my next dream car as im almost done cleaning up the 300ZX

i just ordered the generic full front end kit from ebay (but it had the lime green background in the pictures, so prob same parts just diff seller). the price was pretty much the same. i am going to install them today/tomorrow as i can sure notice my front end play with my 33x12.5 tires and 15x10 steel rims lol. the parts arrived and were packaged well and they look to be very high quality i must say. every single joint has a greasable zerk fitting as well! very nice feature to have that on every balljoint/steering joint. ill let you know how everything goes and how they feel after. EDIT:: that kit also has swar bar end links. nice one, mine didnt.