InfamousDuckMan Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) Last week my transmission randomly decided to stop downshifting into second gear. Going up crunched a little, but I double clutched to avoid this. I have since found out that I have thrown a synchro ring. So the parents thought it would be a prudent time for me to get the transmission rebuilt, this decision came instead of selling it & buying another rig. Anyway, so now it's been in the Workshop for almost a week now. On the day I dropped it off the bloke called pretty quickly & said it needs to be removed so he can have a look inside, this is $920. Up to this point this was everyting I expected. Gave him the green light to do it. So today I get a call... He said the Gearbox is Cactus (Dead). I need a changeover. I kind of expected this too. I was quoted $2750 for this by someone who has conveniently gone on holidays. He went on to tell me the price is still $2750 & he will get one in from Sydney. HOWEVER this was excluding $550 in Labour. I was also told the wear indicators on the clutch show that it is also on its way out, even though when I bought the car just over a year ago, the previous owner had already had the clutch replaced. There goes another $800. Thank god no extra labour. So there we have it. $4,100 in repairs on a car worth $5,000. Had I not have already fronted the $920 for the removal & refit only to be told that I need a changeover I would have cut my losses. /rant Just had to vent with some people who actually know what they're talking about. For anyone wondering: Workshop: 'Trans, Gears & Diffs' in Thomastown. Prices all in AUD --DuckMan. Edited August 25, 2009 by InfamousDuckMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleurys Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 ouch...that's gotta hurt a bit .... Just for the record how many KM do you have on it..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavefromOZ Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 That sux bug time mate, it would probably be cheaper to pay the 900 bucks and look for a cheap runner & do the swap yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Yeah, like Dave said!! Hell, if you were local I'd sell you a good tranny and help you put it in... Look for a wrecked truck and do the swap... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westslope Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) Aussie dollars? Ain't that bad. Very close to what a full transmission job can cost here. (That's why we continue to double-clutch from 5th into 4th.) Spot cash rates 25 August 2009 thanks to the Bank of Canada Au$/C$ 1.1067 US$/C$ 0.9275 InfamousDuckMan wrote: Had I not have already fronted the $920 for the removal & refit only to be told that I need a changeover I would have cut my losses. You could be suffering from the infamous and widely spread Loss Aversion or Sunk Cost Fallacy. It explains why many people, institutions, including and especially governments, throw good money after bad to deploy a wisdom rich cliché. (Other examples include holding losing investments for far too long, and sending more citizen-soldiers to die in losing conflicts.) Actually, it could have been a good economic decision to shoulder the expensive transmission and clutch repairs but that depends on the kilometers driven and the general condition of the engine and chassis. Your full opportunity cost of replacing the vehicle is likely much, much higher than Au$5,000. Edited September 2, 2009 by westslope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadm4x4 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 thats crap bloke..... should have done a serch for some local members before givn them the go ahead. there is a few guys down youre way. if not even on pcoa. may have been able to get one from somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavefromOZ Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Here ya go Infamous, these guys have a 94 V6 5 speed being wrecked at the moment, they are in NSW, but to have it trucked down would still come well under the 4100 you were quoted. You could even send us over a case of Jacks and still have plenty of change for more mods. http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/W...ckToResult=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfamousDuckMan Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 The Duck Truck has done almost 300,000 Kms. Had its engine replaced with a brand new one before I bought iteverything else major appears to be looking good, no body rust, nothing. So I should be getting it back tomorrow. My parents are helping out with the money so I guess after this I'll just have a good reliable truck that will continue to go everywhere. --DuckMan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 problem with swapping in a used tranny is that you have no idea what its history is and it may crap out the next day. Better to buy new or get a full rebuild with a warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) nothing wrong with used parts. Most junkyards give a 90 day warranty. If it is going to fail then it will do so within the first few days. If its still running fine after 90 days then you will be fine. That price is too much. I was just quoted $1500 for junkyard replacement of transmission AND transfer case.... and i thought THAT was a lot!! $1500 us = $1800 au Edited September 1, 2009 by FUELER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95PATHMAKER Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Last week my transmission randomly decided to stop downshifting into second gear. Going up crunched a little, but I double clutched to avoid this. I have since found out that I have thrown a synchro ring. So the parents thought it would be a prudent time for me to get the transmission rebuilt, this decision came instead of selling it & buying another rig. Anyway, so now it's been in the Workshop for almost a week now. On the day I dropped it off the bloke called pretty quickly & said it needs to be removed so he can have a look inside, this is $920. Up to this point this was everyting I expected. Gave him the green light to do it. So today I get a call... He said the Gearbox is Cactus (Dead). I need a changeover. I kind of expected this too. I was quoted $2750 for this by someone who has conveniently gone on holidays. He went on to tell me the price is still $2750 & he will get one in from Sydney. HOWEVER this was excluding $550 in Labour. I was also told the wear indicators on the clutch show that it is also on its way out, even though when I bought the car just over a year ago, the previous owner had already had the clutch replaced. There goes another $800. Thank god no extra labour. So there we have it. $4,100 in repairs on a car worth $5,000. Had I not have already fronted the $920 for the removal & refit only to be told that I need a changeover I would have cut my losses. /rant Just had to vent with some people who actually know what they're talking about. For anyone wondering: Workshop: 'Trans, Gears & Diffs' in Thomastown. Prices all in AUD --DuckMan. Sorry to hear that... Pathfinder Transmissions are tough, the problem is that they aren't cooled adequately, so make sure whether a rebuild or swap, that you invest the extra money (less than $100 American ) in a mack-daddy transmission oil cooler, and hopefully this will be the last time you find yourself in this mess... FYI: Mack-Daddy is not an oil cooler manufacturer...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfamousDuckMan Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 I've got my rig back now, had it for a few weeks actually, & its doing well so far. Figured I'd give it a few weeks before a review. So its BEAUTIFULLY quiet! oh & I'm getting more power too. Anyway, a lot of money down, but well worth it I guess. Now here is the dodgey bit, when I picked my rig up, I asked the bloke at the workshop about the overfilling that Madkiwi talks about HERE. He wasnt familiar with this & recommended me not to, he suggested that the changing temperatures within the case will increase the pressure & break something else, & as a result will not be covered by the warranty. Now stands the question, who do I trust? Someone who just rebuilt my gearbox (or sent it to Sydney for someone else to rebuild), or Madkiwi's information linked above? --DuckMan. PS. To '95Pathmaker': My transmission is the Manual 5 speed, I forgot to mention that earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 He wasnt familiar with this & recommended me not to, he suggested that the changing temperatures within the case will increase the pressure & break something else, & as a result will not be covered by the warranty. That bloke is an idiot, so I hope he sent the tranny out for the work and didn't do it himself. There is no pressure in the tranny (and I'm pretty sure it is vented, I know the diffs are), it is a gear box. Even if there was increased pressure, the most it would do is leak at a seal, not 'break something else'. I highly recommend you do not believe anything remotely technical that this bloke tells you. When Nissan tells it's techs to overfill and modify their tranny case with a higher fill hole to accomodate the recommended overfill amount, I'm prone to believe them. I and countless others have overfilled their trannys according to the TSB with zero negative effects. I highly recomment you do the same... B Oh, the tranny is vented, the shifter socket can not possibly double as a seal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 If the breather system is anything like the auto tranny onel, you should see it go near the power steering lines on the passenger side frame and up under the hood. (pretty sure thats how it works) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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