ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I am new to the boards, and I am curious if this swap can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) 3.3 can be, but involves a good bit of work. Not sure about the 4.0, but the 4.5 V8 will bolt up to the t-case in our WDs, but the radiator will need some relocation. Edited January 4, 2009 by GrimGreg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwipete Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 3.3 can be, but involves a good bit of work. Not sure about the 4.0, but the 4.5 V8 will bolt up to the tranny in our WDs, but the radiator will need some relocation. Scuse my ignorance, but what is the 3.3 4.0 and 4.5 engines you refer to. I am asking as my Diesel 2.7 is getting tired and might need replacing............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerranoNZ Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Scuse my ignorance, but what is the 3.3 4.0 and 4.5 engines you refer to.I am asking as my Diesel 2.7 is getting tired and might need replacing............ 3.3 is the VG33 (Comes in the R50 Terrano), just like the VG30 (3.0L) The 4.0 and 4.5 are the VH40 and VH45. I was looking at the V8, but they have coil packs on top of the engine and don't like getting wet. Also the $$ for the V8, fab work, cert and beffing up everything else......Would be cool though See here for my thread on building a VG33....that I haven't yet finished http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=17624&hl= I'd build a V8 diesel though....Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissandoms47 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I didnt know they ever made a VH40, its more like the VQ40. They made a VH41 and a VH45, VK45, VK50, VK56. None of which will bolt up to any VG trans.Your best option for a huge power increase would be a VQ35 or a VQ40. I guarntee if you use a VQ35 out of an r50 and use the wd21 engine mounts it would be a very close bolt on. The drivetrain is about the same length as the vg drivetrain so you still have room for a fan, rad, accessories, ac condenser, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 They made a VH41 and a VH45, VK45, VK50, VK56. None of which will bolt up to any VG trans. Yeah, I got my statement wrong, the T-case will bolt up to the tranny fitted on the VH.This is from an ongoing swap thread on the NOAS forum: vh45de: Infinity all aluminum v-8 4.5L found in 94-03 m45 & q45. This is a popular swap for 240sx drift racers. Can be used in HB's & frontiers. Only offerd(US spec)with an auto. Have no fear, the tx-10 case will bolt up to the tranny! You will need engine ecm & harness, tranny ecm & harness. This combo weighs the same as vg33e & auto, good for around 290hp-275ft-lbs torque. With JDM ecm it can handle 100hp shots of nitrous (mudbogger anyone?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 3.3 is the VG33 (Comes in the R50 Terrano), just like the VG30 (3.0L) The 4.0 and 4.5 are the VH40 and VH45. I was looking at the V8, but they have coil packs on top of the engine and don't like getting wet. Also the $$ for the V8, fab work, cert and beffing up everything else......Would be cool though See here for my thread on building a VG33....that I haven't yet finished http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=17624&hl= I'd build a V8 diesel though....Hmmmmm I tow my boat with my pathfinder, and I am in the process of buying a larger boat. I would like to have a little more power for towing. An engine swap might be overkill. What else can I do to this little rig to help low end power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veilside180sx Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I tow my boat with my pathfinder, and I am in the process of buying a larger boat. I would like to have a little more power for towing. An engine swap might be overkill. What else can I do to this little rig to help low end power? VG33 build or a small turbo setup would work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 VG33 build or a small turbo setup would work fine. What makes a 3.0 to a 3.3 swap difficult? I can get a donor xterra with a 3.3 that includes all the electronics. My truck has a 5-speed that I defenitely want to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 What makes a 3.0 to a 3.3 swap difficult? I can get a donor xterra with a 3.3 that includes all the electronics. My truck has a 5-speed that I defenitely want to keep. If you can get a full donor vehicle it will be easier. Basically the bitch of it is that some of the accesories are swapped around so you need to run different AC, power steering lines, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerranoNZ Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I didnt know they ever made a VH40, its more like the VQ40. They made a VH41 and a VH45, VK45, VK50, VK56. None of which will bolt up to any VG trans.Your best option for a huge power increase would be a VQ35 or a VQ40. I guarntee if you use a VQ35 out of an r50 and use the wd21 engine mounts it would be a very close bolt on. The drivetrain is about the same length as the vg drivetrain so you still have room for a fan, rad, accessories, ac condenser, etc.. My bad Yeah VH41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 My bad Yeah VH41 ok guys, I have found a low mileage 3.3 for a very decent price and I need some help. I need to know about bellhousing bolt patterns, what fits, what doesn't? I have also heard that you have to go into the harness for the instrument panel. Is this true? How big of a deal is that? I am getting all of the ecm stuff from the donor vehicle, Is there anything else I will need off of that rig for the swap? Is this swap really worthwhile, or is there an easier way to get some more towing power? I don't think I want to get into turbochargers, but a supercharger might not be out of the question if it won't cost an arm and a leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerranoNZ Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 ok guys, I have found a low mileage 3.3 for a very decent price and I need some help. I need to know about bellhousing bolt patterns, what fits, what doesn't? I have also heard that you have to go into the harness for the instrument panel. Is this true? How big of a deal is that? I am getting all of the ecm stuff from the donor vehicle, Is there anything else I will need off of that rig for the swap? Is this swap really worthwhile, or is there an easier way to get some more towing power? I don't think I want to get into turbochargers, but a supercharger might not be out of the question if it won't cost an arm and a leg. The bare block is the same as the VG30, so bell housing bolts up You could just bolt your VG30 stuff on to the VG33 (Like what I'm SLOWLY doing at the moment We're all here to help anyway Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissandoms47 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yeah the tx10 tcase will both up to the VH45DEs RE4R03A auto trans. You just need a custom output shaft and the adapter plate to go from the back of the automatic to the front of the tcase. Ive got a RE4R03A v8 4x4 trans with the tx10 sitting in my garage lol. That and the vh45 was going to go into my x, but then i didnt swap it and it all just sat, i sold the engines but still have that tranny, then i bought a VQ pathy a while after which has more then enough power so i dont even care anymore lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) The bare block is the same as the VG30, so bell housing bolts up You could just bolt your VG30 stuff on to the VG33 (Like what I'm SLOWLY doing at the moment We're all here to help anyway Good luck So is there any truth to the fact that you must also go into the instument panel wiring harness? Is this swap really worth it? Is there an easier way to get the horses I need? Also, are the 3.0 engines in a maxima the same as in my pathfinder? I was curious about the camshaft lift/duration. Do the maxima engines make more power? Edited January 12, 2009 by ditchdiggerjcf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerranoNZ Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 So is there any truth to the fact that you must also go into the instument panel wiring harness? If you intend on bolting in the WHOLE engine (Accessories and all), maybe Is this swap really worth it? Is there an easier way to get the horses I need? Depends how much you want out of it. You could pick up a Supercharged VG33 or the manifolds and bolt that on the VG30 Then you'd need to get an ECU that would run it. Also, are the 3.0 engines in a maxima the same as in my pathfinder? I was curious about the camshaft lift/duration. Do the maxima engines make more power? The basic engine, yes. It does differ in the intake and a few accessories. From memory they make like 10HP more, but that could be in the different intake or ECU, The Maxima ECU does NOT fit the Pathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you intend on bolting in the WHOLE engine (Accessories and all), maybeDepends how much you want out of it. You could pick up a Supercharged VG33 or the manifolds and bolt that on the VG30 Then you'd need to get an ECU that would run it. The basic engine, yes. It does differ in the intake and a few accessories. From memory they make like 10HP more, but that could be in the different intake or ECU, The Maxima ECU does NOT fit the Pathy. Dude, I appreciate all your help with this. I know I am asking alot of questions. It is starting to seem like this swap will be alot of trouble for only a little bit of gain. How much power should I gain if I installed a CAI along with headers. The factory exhaust has seen better days, so I would also do away with it. The only other ways I can think of to add some horses would be to replace the camshafts(aftrmrkt manu?), or a programmer/chip. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 You can get your ECU reprogrammed (no chips available) and do your cams (there are a few manufacturers that make them for the VG series engines) and you'd gain a decent amount of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) You can get your ECU reprogrammed (no chips available) and do your cams (there are a few manufacturers that make them for the VG series engines) and you'd gain a decent amount of power. Who can reprogram my ecu? I don't know of anyone local. Can you still buy a programmer for these trucks? Who makes cams for my rig? Edited January 12, 2009 by ditchdiggerjcf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 There is a member (Indigent if I remember correctly) who's been playing around with flashing his ECU. Search for his thread. Otherwise, JWT can flash them, and there's another....but it isn't cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 There is a member (Indigent if I remember correctly) who's been playing around with flashing his ECU. Search for his thread. Otherwise, JWT can flash them, and there's another....but it isn't cheap. Who is JWT, and how much is "not cheap"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Do you need everything force fed to ya? http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/ try sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Do you need everything force fed to ya? http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/ try sometime. Just what this world needs, another smartass. Thanks alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Just what this world needs, another smartass. Thanks alot. You're welcome It's been talked about quite a bit on the site, just gotta look . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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