94 Pathy Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Ok, so if I'm thinking about doing a SAS someday.....I've heard that the Nissan axles are really tough. What do you think about using a rear axle for the front? Is it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McClurgM Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I will be exploring this topic fairly soon. I plan to use the C200 out of the rear of my 87 Pathfinder as a Solid Front Axle. The issues are: 1.)$$$$$ 2.)$$$$$ 3.) See 1 and 2 4.) The "pumpkin" needs to be "moved" to the drivers side. (If I remember correctly.) Running a solid axle with the "pumpkin" in the middle leads to it smacking other stuffs I will let you know how my adventure pans out. Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 Pathy Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 How soon are you looking into doing this? Yes Please! Keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packie88 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 what about gears. how do you guys plan on dealin with the gearing issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I know someone that is almost finished with a convertion of a H233b rear. He's combining D44 knuckles with the H233b center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McClurgM Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) I am planning to swap a H233B into the rear of my pathfinder with 4.88 gears that i am in the process of buying. I also am working on getting some 4.88 gears for my C200 then the idea is doing as GrimGreg said "combining D44 knuckles with the H233b (in my case it will be a C200) center" Is there another gear issue to deal with? Matthew Edited April 21, 2007 by McClurgM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyb33 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 personally, i would just go looking for a D44. its easier, cheaper to gear, and in the long run will save you lots and lots of headache getting the knuckles lined up perfectly, getting the axle tubes cut and welded PERFECTLY (otherwise ull run thru bearings like its your job) all that just to get an axle.....when there is a D44 that is fairly strong, and especially if you have the 4cyl ur prob never gonna break and axle shaft anyways...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 Pathy Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Just a thought. I was thinking afterwards and yes......dealing with the off-set of the pumkin. Wasn't thinking about having to off-set that towards the driver's side of the vehicle. All the welding and gearing and lining up the knuckles. I guess if you have the time, spare axle, and the equipment to fart around with it, then go for it. Unfourtunately now, I don't have a garage to fart around with things now. F'ing women! Oh well, just keep us updated on the progress. Take pic's if possible during the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I think converting a rear axle to a front would be the last resort if you have NO other options. That's a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 Pathy Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Yeah, I just thought that keeping everything all Nissan would be cool. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repack Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 All this axle talk is making me drool. The fornt of my '95 has developed a fair amount of play and I keep thinking that I should just go for the SAS. Fell free to flame me for being lazy and not looking for informaiton that I am sure is readily available all over this site, but if I wanted a D44, what is the best vehicle to pull it from? There is a very nice/large JY <1 mile form my house that has an "all you can cary for $50 sale" sometime soon and I am thinking about pulling one just to have it. Not sure how much it will weigh but even if I need to take 2 or 3 trips $100-$150 wouldn't be bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I don't think you'll be able to carry a front axle unless you strip it completely down and take the parts out in a wheelbarrow. Doable, but it'll take a bit of work in the dirt. 83-89? Jeep Wagoneer(Grand Wagoneer) is one, I believe. You want the NON-VACCUUM axle, which has a vacuum line going from it up to the engine compartment. The vac-lock ones were bad. I don't know the exact details, but that's what I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packie88 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 yep it was like 80-92 or somethign along those lines. you can convert the vac discos but not worth the time and money. the vac discos were from like 84-85. you want one thats drivers side drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I am planning to swap a H233B into the rear of my pathfinder with 4.88 gears that i am in the process of buying. I also am working on getting some 4.88 gears for my C200 then the idea is doing as GrimGreg said "combining D44 knuckles with the H233b (in my case it will be a C200) center" Is there another gear issue to deal with? Matthew Why does everybody do this.... NOT LOW ENOUGH. If you are going to do an SAS, you are going to run 35" tires or bigger. If not, why are you doing the conversion? I have repeated myself on this board multiple times. YOU WILL WANT 5.14 or 5.38's. I run a V6 and 36's with 5.38:1's and i was driving up the mountain the other day shifting back and forth between 1st and 2nd.... do some research before wasting your money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I would ditto that comment. I was thinking 5:13's or higher. The way the rest of the drivetrain is set up, 4.88's are only a small step above stock gearing, that's good for what...32's? Heh. I realize packie88's choice of gearing isn't due to personal choice, it's what is available at the time. Who wants to spend $500+ on just one axle's worth of gears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I would ditto that comment. I was thinking 5:13's or higher. The way the rest of the drivetrain is set up, 4.88's are only a small step above stock gearing, that's good for what...32's? Heh. I realize packie88's choice of gearing isn't due to personal choice, it's what is available at the time. Who wants to spend $500+ on just one axle's worth of gears? I straightened out packie along time ago. you can get 5:14's for the H233. I realize you can't go deaper without spending big cash. But 4.88's just won't cut it Stock 4.375:1 with 30's = 5.14:1 with 36's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repack Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Thanks for the info. Time to start doing some homework! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packie88 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 yes thank you 87 pathy for that. 88pathoffroad do you know htat i have sas planned out. cause i was pretty sure i only have talked to like 4 people about it... oh well i guess its out now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spolar93 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 when you doing that jared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packie88 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 summer, gathering my parts and what not now once i finish getting the parts and once im done with school then it goes into the garage, hopin to swap the alty with a bigger one, maybe put in a starter, couple other quick fixes while the front suspension is gone. i though about trying to swap in a manual at the same time but dont have the funds to be able to do at the current moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 summer, gathering my parts and what not now once i finish getting the parts and once im done with school then it goes into the garage, hopin to swap the alty with a bigger one, maybe put in a starter, couple other quick fixes while the front suspension is gone. i though about trying to swap in a manual at the same time but dont have the funds to be able to do at the current moment Git-R-Done! If you have any technical questions during the swap, let me know. PS.. CRAWLER GEARS SHOULD BE NEAR THE TOP OF YOUR LIST! I can't believe i ran an entire season without them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McClurgM Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 do some research before wasting your money Maybe I missed the in-depth discussion about gears....could you be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Maybe I missed the in-depth discussion about gears....could you be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Matthew Here, use this: http://www.izook.com/gearcalc.htm It will calculate what gearing you need based on tire size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McClurgM Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Grim - Thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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