arctic_mark Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I've just been told by a friend that body lifts are to be outlawed in the province of Alberta and that drivers running such modifications will be subjected to a fine by the RCMP if caught. This would be retroactive and applied to vehicles modified before the law came into effect as well as after. Does anyone know if this is for real!!!! :confused: I've e-mailed Alberta Transport for clarrification and will post their reply once I get it. Are there any other jurisdictions where bodylifts are banned! Thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 CALLING MOOKIE TO THREAD #12572!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Technically, they are banned anywhere the laws prohibit modifications that are not certified by an engineer, like in BC. But it comes down to enforcement. I audit companies for legal compliance to various environmental regulations such as the transportation of dangerous goods. In Canada, a tank of 450l mounted in a truck is illegal unless it has been made to a specific standard or inspected every year. But of all the tanks I have checked, none, even the illegal ones, have ever been checked by the RCMP, federal or provincial officials. So who is going to check on lifts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Ben~ Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I doubt it'll be enforced. And if it is only your average lift (something less than 5 inches maybe) you can always play stupid and just say you bought the car how it was, and didn't realize it had been lifted. Why would they pass a law like that though? The whole state of Virginia would be in an uproar if they banned lifts here, I don't think the rednecks could live without their lifted trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdpathy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 All I can say is wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 The logical time for checking this would be during a mandated vehicle inspection. Does Alberta require these? The RCMP will be (well they should be) too busy to be checking on lifts, so how will it be done. Hopefully though it is a fairy story anyway :Magic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic_mark Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Yeah, I hope its a fairy story too, but as for inspections in AB, the only manditory inspections required (I think) are when you license a vehicle in Alberta for the first time be it from another province or imported. You do need an "inspection" in order to get insurence, but this is a pretty flimsy thing from your garage saying the rig is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 CALLING MOOKIE TO THREAD #12572!! I haven't heard anything about that. But that doesn't mean anything these days as I'm swamped with work and have no connection with reality. -bounce- I'll see if I can find anything. Definitely post up the reply you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic_mark Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 OK, got a reply back from the Alberta Government. Looks like it was a fairy story after all Never trust a Land Rover mechanic (guy who told me!) But anyway, here's what they wrote me back: Hello Mark: Thank you for your email regarding vehicle body lift regulations. There are no changes planned in the immediate future to regulate body lift kits. Any such change would require a public consultation, with a majority of Albertans supporting the recommended legislative changes. If you make any modifications to a vehicle it is your responsibility to ensure that the modifications carried out are done so in a manner that will not affect the safety or the safe operation of the vehicle or become a hazard to general public and other road users. You may be held accountable for the design and engineering standards of the vehicle if the vehicle became involved in a collision due to the modifications. Raised pick-up trucks must comply with Alberta's on highway equipment requirements of the Vehicle Equipment Regulation. Lamp maximum heights: section 6(2) headlamps (1.4 metres), section 13(5) tail lamps (2 metres), section 19(2) brake lamps (2 metres), and section 23(6) turn signal lamps (2.11 metres). Section 64, requires mud guards to be at least as wide as the tire and half way down the tire. For further information please, go to the following web link: http://www.qp.gov.ab.ca/documents/Regs/200...719557&type=htm If you have any further questions please contact me, Sincerely, Howard Greenway Vehicle Standards Specialist Vehicle Safety and Carrier Services Branch Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation Phone # 780-427-7573 howard.greenway@gov.ab.ca Hope this is useful Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I'll have to double check my bumper and headlight heights once again. When I was pulled over the officer measured my bumper heights and lights, but only ticketed me for flares and mudflaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 OK, got a reply back from the Alberta Government.Looks like it was a fairy story after all Never trust a Land Rover mechanic (guy who told me!) But anyway, here's what they wrote me back: Hope this is useful Cheers Mark Good post, well done. Nice, informative reply, must new in government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vengeful Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The whole state of Virginia would be in an uproar if they banned lifts here, I don't think the rednecks could live without their lifted trucks. LMAO! So true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD50 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Somebody else told me about the "outlawing" of lifts as well. I was hoping it wasn't true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishpeck Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Fortunately for me, there's a special loophole around the whole "lift restrictions" in my state. If the vehicle is registered as a "farm vehicle," you can lift it as much as you want. So every once in a while, I haul piles of sod or dog food for my parents. Lucky for me, that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyb33 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 wow....around here, they are extremely strict about what can be a farm vehicle. my family owns a farm up in WV that provides a resort up the way with pretty much all of its in house ingredients (everything they make from scratch in their bake kitchen) and because the state says that we pretty much do not sell our produce and eggs and whatnot to anyone else that they we are not a standalone farm, so we are not allowed to tag any of our trucks as farm vehicles....so we get to be hit with all the insurance and whatnot from our 4 farm trucks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herm Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Maine has gone back and forth with legislation on lift laws. In 2007 they relaxed the rules to allow up to 4 inches, but the more difficult rules concern tire size. They have a complex formula that attempts to limit tire size to two sizes larger than what the door jam sticker reads. In 2003 they banned all lifts over 2 inches, and many people had to drop vehicles back to stock. Now those lifts are being reinstalled, what a PITA! Enforcement is always vague. It comes down to inspection stations, they make the call on pass/fail. The other liability issue is a post-accident scenario, where the state police do a vehicle autopsy. At that point the driver can be held responsible for driving an unsafe vehicle, which can compound legal issues if you are involved in an accident, especially one that has fatalities. The whole point of this began as a reaction against the monster trucks that use anything from a professionally engineered Skyjacker lift to hockey pucks and 2x4s... and of course what sucks about that is most of those are purely mall-cruisers! There are a lot of loopholes, or vague specs. The way the law reads concerning a 4 inch lift is a direct measurement off the frame, so where does leave a unibody? The enforcement is also vague - it all revolves around the annual inspection sticker. And they don't clearly state if bumping up a tire size two sizes is dependent on the manufacturers offerings or straight math. Maine also prohibits the sale of diesel cars, like VW TDIs, but it is legal to buy them in a neighboring state and liscence them here. None of it makes much sense to car/truck guys. m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattd123 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 in Mass the car can not be mor the 3 inches lower or taller than stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
govols74n Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 The land of the freeeeeee...............lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedPath88 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Maine also prohibits the sale of diesel cars, like VW TDIs, but it is legal to buy them in a neighboring state and liscence them here. That falls along the same lines as when a friend of mine put a 70's (76 iirc) Celica body one an 80 Toyota 4X4 truck frame. They told him that the bumpers were to high (it would be licensed as a car and thus had to fallow those rules) BUT if he took it to Oregon, licensed it, then brought it back to Washington, then they would license it no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavelow Leaks Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 My only question is, how does a guy on a horse pull over a car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Pickles Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Washington has a bunch of F*&^%'ng morons running the show. They state regs for truck bumper heights and such, yet I came across a truck in Chelan, WA that I literally could drive my old car under. Granted, its was a lowerd 91 Prelude SI, but it was still ridiculously large for the street. There are pics out there somewhere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrailChaser Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 It's pretty obvious why they make these type of laws when you see 80% of the 4x4's driving around here. The ford, dodge, and chevy guys don't consider it lifted unless you need a freakin latter to get in and out of the truck. I laugh every time I see their junk with a 6-8inch body lift and 6-8inch blocks between the axle and leaf springs. We have a word for those guys around here... Poseur :oops: -thnkboutit- Every once in a while I'll invite one of'em to join the club on a trip to the trails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishpeck Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 in Mass the car can not be mor the 3 inches lower or taller than stock Sounds t'me like all you gotta do is manufacture your own vehilce with 4" lift stock and you're in good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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