DSM_guy

maybe im missing something here..but i uh...unbolted the starter, slid it back a few inches to disconnect the wiring, and pulled it right out the front. sure, a lil twisting and tilting, but it literally came out in 5 min from the time i slid under there no disconnected linkage no disconnected oil filter no removal of anything except for the starter. yall are talking about a vg30 right???

good lord lol....i dunno what you did for those 4.5 hours, but it took me a grand total of 5 min to get mine out and about 10 to get it back in. that was in a school parking lot just winging it (no directions) and no, i didnt have to unbolt anything from the starter

because it was the easy thing to do. rather than take the time to find the correct wire in the dash he saw an opportunity to quickly locate the wire of his choice in a less time-consuming way

go look at any rice bucket and youll find them. sorry but if your going for unique...your up a certain creek. iv seen them made every possible way to play to the rice crowd and regardless of your age...led's are bright. when i have my alarm in valet mode and the single lil blue led is constantly lit...its a bother and its not even in immediate sight. you put 3 of those in your line of sight..your gonna about go batty. its not subjective like volume or something...things that put strain on the eyes do so across the entire range of age. believe me...iv been in the import scene for 5x longer than youve been driving. nothing about any of it is origional...and flip cover switches are not original. the only use i see for them is a PLAIN looking covered switch for a nitrous kit or for a studder box...things that really need to remain covered. other than that, you look like a fool flipping on your fog lights with "fighter style flip cover switches"

thank you..thank you

when i said "hack job" i was referring to wiring it in there at the HI beam wiring behind the headlight for the trigger.

well for one..its a hack job wiring up the relay like that. so me being the anal person i am...id move it in..and yes, it would also tidy up the wiring. and you might as well move your other relay in as well. its better to have all your related stuff in one area..rather than spred out over 2-3 places. and youll get longer life from moving it inside as well id suppose (theoretically) due to a more controlled invironment. not the hot/cold/dry/wet up and down changes. less chance of corrosion as far as your diagram..it looks pretty good to me oh, and as far as the hole in your dash, i was trying to think of SOMETHING to cover it..even temporarily...you could always get one of those little adhesive mounted liquid compases and stick it right there lol. i dunno, just throwing anything out.

common...not really. worthwhile.....doubtfull. me personally id unhook it from that spot, and get the trigger from somewhere else. like inside at the dimmer switch wire. you dont need much to activate the relay. as far as the hole...mmmm, you got me on that one. dash cap maybe? or install a tweeter there in the front lol. or hey, you could get one of those OEM clinometers!

just my .02 ...what exactly are you driving here? a pathy or an f-16? seriously, just get some nice sleek rockers or toggles minus the cheezy flip cover. your not gonna accidently release a hoard of hellfire missles if you bump the switch reaching for the AC this is not "honda tech"

ah sweet...well i guess that answers that. i read your thread before...but i guess i missed the whole I6/V8 discussion (dunno how) thanks much!

hmm, well after checking several sources...you do seem to be correct that theres seems to be no diff between V6 and V8 4x4 coils. hmm, i just guess i was going with what 88 wrote up in this page about the install. all he ever mentioned (and all i ever see mentioned on here) is the v8 coils. if that were teh case, im sure it would be easier for other ppl to find used jgc coils...since V8 ones are seeming to dry up in places. can anyone else comment/confirm this? 88?

i have to agree. i think its AWESOME your offering your services..but i think on most automotive forums people prefer function over form. lots of flashy graphics and contrast tends to make my eyes bleed. and im not even an old geezer! (22). i think a few touchups that have been mentioned are cool...but nothing too far past that.

dude...just get what YOU want. a light is a light. wheather is be round, square, blue, yellow, pink...whatever...a light is a light. pick out what best suits YOUR taste. i mean, in the grand scheme of things, aux lights are not gonna make a break your rig. i personaly went with my lights cuz they were cheap, easily replaced, and the square body/lense went along with the squareness of the bodystyle. i realize you want a good setup, but continually asking ppl what to put on YOUR vehicle just dosent make a lot of sense. its your ride, do it the way YOU want it to. nobody here is gonna be driving it or using your setup. its up to you what to use. not trying to sound like a prick...just make a few decisions for yourself

93-97 jeep grand cherokee v8 WITH AWD OR 4 WHEEL DRIVE. AFAIK 2wd will NOT work. the springs are the same length...but the spring rate is not the same.

well, in a relay..you have to have some sort of trigger wire. all that means is you need a wire with a 12V source to trip the insides of the relay to make it work. its like an "on" switch to make the relay work. when 12V from your trigger wire goes to the relay, it activates teh electromagnet in there and opens teh circuit for the power to flow from the battery to the accssory (in this case, your lights). the trigger wire is any wire that you use to activiate this relay. it can either be a constant hot in a switch (as showin in the first), it can be a wire that shows 12v when they key is on, when lights are on, when...well..anything really. when i was mentioning the trigger wire..for my setup it was anything that showed voltage when they key was in the ON or ACC position. in which case yes...you can find it right beneath the steering colum. i think its a fat white wire..but double check on your own to be sure. then you just splice into that (or whatever trigger you decide), install a toggle or rocker switch before you get the wire all the way to the relay and run it to the #86 post on the relay.

i prefer to turn off (and on) all my lights independently. so my fogs and roof can be used any time the key is turned..and of course the headlights. and to be honest, i havent used my hi beams since i moved my fogs up to my push bar. where now they really arent fogs...but rather aux lights. but that is so much brighter than even the headlights on HI. so the only switchin i do is on my fogs for brighter lights. and the only time i use my roof lights is when im way out back on some road and feelin fun. i dont use those on the highway...although with 6 lights..if someone bright-lights you...you could sure make em pay couldent you?

my schematic shows a relay...its just not labled as such because i figured ppl would see it and know what it was lol. as far as the convenience..you dont have to have the engine running to use my setup. just pop in the key and click it to ACC or ON. just like you would if you were merley wanting to listen to the radio. OP: yes, i got mine at wal mart. they sold them in packs of 2. some brand called "desert fox" or something like that. me..i DID have the roof rack, and actually took one of the larger racks and driled holes through them. whala...pretty much an OEM light rack. since you dont have a factory roof rack, i (and others probably will as well) suggest you get an aftermarket one like a yakima or thule rack. search around for more details. and just mount your lights to that. dont go drilling holes in the roof

harbie you could pretty much do the same thing. just take out the ash tray and that little peice of metal at the top. get you a peice of plexi or plastic...or even some thing gauge steel/alum and work with that. as far as the multi color switches..those are a bit more specialized and you might have to search around the net for those. or just go the normal route and get ones that light up when in use. i dunn about you, but i go nuts with a bunch of little lights everywhere..and if its not in use i just as soon not have to see it at night lol. either use the ones you got, or a nice set of clean rocker switches and call it a day. actually, if you dont really have anything layin around the house for plate material..looks like the other side of that box would yeild some clean, flat plastic to work with. then just glue or secure it somehow to the back of the trim plate...run all your wiring and pop it all back in!

walmart here...muahhahahah! but seriously, you can spend $5 or $500 for a light, its all in what your price range. i personally could never spend the money on high end lights. what with hazards and theives..id cry if a rack of $400 worth of lights disaapreard. $40 is what my top rack cost me. i can get the bulbs just about anywhere, and they make my pathway look like its daylight out. what more do ya need? as far as the rest of teh stuff...search around for some of your questions. most have been answered before. and dont bother with the "basic" search...its worthless. go to the "more options" advanced search. there is tons of good reading about pretty much every question you have asked thus far. not to harp..just lettin you know there is a few years worth of stuff cataloged in this site and i invite you to use this site to its full potential. if your just posting asking questions, your using about 1/8th of this forums (or any worthwile forums) full potential. p.s. i would not wire up any lights the way as shown in the schematic above. thats asking for a run down battery. my preference is to use a hot key trigger (a wire thats only showing power when the key is to the ON or ACC position) for your trigger wire (running to the #86 post on the realay). that way there is no way you could walk away from your car and have your lights still on. i did the origional with the foglights to my DSM..and 3 jump starts later i learned my lesson. p.p.s and since im feeling SO damn nice today..here is a schematic on what i was speaking of just now

from what i get out of it he is saying he has 2 error lights when he goes through a river or deep mud, and they wont go off till he cleans off that area...or as he referred to "the sector" sector being "an area" as far as your prob sir, id get the alternator either replaced or opened up and cleaned/rebuilt to make sure everything is in OK condition. then id either remount...or try to stay out of the mud for a while.

wal-mart eh? hmmm, i wonder if i could get them to do that here. did you just walk in and tell them what you wanted and get them with no probs? did you have to pull any springs or deal with any isht? sorry just never heard of anyone doing that at wally world lol.

hmm, well i did a search at partsamerica.com and also at autozone. none of the products listed were labled as "heavy duty". i found one brand of springs at AZ, and 2 diff brands at PA. made by duralast autozone coils TRW (PA) trw mcquay-norris (PA) mcquay norris if i cant find any heavy duty ones here....i wonder if you could send a little "birthday present" across teh border to me!

Simon, when you say "new aftermarket coils" do you mean OEM spec springs new from an auto parts joint, or do you mean aftermarket as in LIFT coils? 88, thanks much for clearing up that fear of the whole "losing the spring" deal. i just have heard of some ppl losing one and having to limp it home lookin all ghetto. and thanks A BUNCH on flagging those spacers for me. the ad said (IIRC) that it could either be used top or bottom, but im glad i didnt blow $40 on that and look like a tool. ill probably just make me some spacers out of something when the time comes round. thanks ALOT to everyone!!

hmm, well i found some 2" spacers here...made for the JGC so they should fit like a charm on the oem springs. and even if i need to modify it a lil to fit our spring mounts shouldent be that bad. what do yall think? it does have a lil keeper there on the top http://www.4wheelerssupply.com/catalog/pro...p/products_id/1

rumor is wrong, youll be fine with the BL shocks for the sus lift. iv heard rancho 9000's most commonly, followed by 5000's. also a few others are mentioned..just do a search and read up a bit 32's should look fine. even 31's i think still look decent with that much lift. over a 32 you might have to start trimming in some cases and stock rims should suffice just fine