seeraedave Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Just in case anyone has been baffled by this, I just finished the mod. The hole in the center of the stock 03 & 04 6 spoke wheels is too small for Warn hubs, but Rugged Ridge 15001.61 will fit, you just need to use a 1/4" spacer behind the wheels or the lip where the Nissan center cap goes will hit the lip of the hub. I needed to change some studs anyway, (Discount Tire stripped 5 of the 24 when they installed my Duratracs), so I removed all of the front studs and put in Dorman #610-340. They are M12x1.5, instead of x1.25, so I needed new lug nuts too, but they're 3/8" longer than stock so even after the spacers I get a couple extra turns of engagement. Nice solid and secure upgrade. I'll see if I can get a picture or two up, soon. While you're in there. grease your wheel bearings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accurrate1 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) Great news!!! Couple questions; Where did you get the 1/4" spacer and Rugged Ridge 15001.61 hubs? Please do post couple pics with the spacer, wheels and the hub installed. I was going to install warn hubs on my 2002 LE with no sucessed due to the center whole of wheel where too small, and now you give me holp!!! Edited June 11, 2012 by accurrate1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Wheel spacers came from Summit Racing, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRD-7107/, they have a $9.95 handling and delivery charge, but I got my studs and lug nuts there also so it wasn't too bad. Hubs came from Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Rugged-Ridge-15001-61-Spline-Locking/dp/B001FANSJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339459611&sr=8-1. The wheel spacers are actually meant for 5/8" lugs, but a 1/2" lock washer pressed nicely into the holes and located it really good on the flange. I have to do an oil change and tire rotation in a couple of days, I'll get some pics then, I was also replacing a cv joint and packing my bearings yesterday and I didn't want to handle my camera when I was all yuck. As far as the wheel spacing, there is about an 1/8' of interference if you try to put your wheels on without it. So, with the 1/4" spacer you have an 1/8" clearance easy. The problem with the stock lugs, in my opinion, they are not long enough right from the factory. You do not want to use this spacer without addressing the stud length, and I searched far and wide for M12 x 1.25 that were a 1/4" longer. The Dorman M12 x 1.5 that I used were the only thing that I could find that also met the head and knurl requirements. Changing them was a breeze with a bench vise and a little creative use of a couple sockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 Just signed up for photobucket, bear with me if I screw this up. And while we're at it, one of fleury's skid plates at work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I really like the look of your tire/wheel configuration. I almost hate to admit that I first saw your tires and thought, "dang, those look aggressive" before scrolling to your second pic and realizing that those are the same tires I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 I didn't want to mess with trimming and what not, so went with 245/75-16's. No rubbing issues whatsoever. Debated the E load rating, went with it because of all the sharp and nasty rocks out here in AZ, they ride just fine on the road with 40 psi front and 37 rear. Aired down to 18 psi off road, they are amazing!! And to think that I actually considered Geolanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 they ride just fine on the road with 40 psi front and 37 rear. Interesting, I air mine up to 40 psi on all corners (I'll go as low as 20 psi on the trails as I'm afraid I'll break the beads) but, I've not heard of running different pressures front/back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 The back of the truck isn't as heavy as the front, you don't need as much psi to get a similar tread contact patch. If I were hauling a trailer or other load I would bring the rear pressure up. I run a 5 psi front to rear difference on my Mustang. I've aired this way for years, and of course I keep a close eye on tread wear patterns to make sure that I'm aired correctly, tires aren't cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTempleton Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Is that lifted at all? I like the way that looks. I want to keep mine simple like that. Maybe it's the step sides that make it look higher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 12, 2012 Author Share Posted June 12, 2012 I put on the Old Man Emu lift. It's advertised at 1/2" of lift, I ended up with just under 2" compared to my worn 140K mile stock suspension, the tires are 2" bigger diameter than the stock tires, so I gained almost 3" at the fenders. In person it looks very "balanced", somewhat sleeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom01Pathfinder Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Wow you guys really run your tires at 40psi?...or there abouts...if you run pressure that high wont it wear out the center tread blocks faster??? Ive got mine about 28-30psi. It has a nice solid footprint...about 1/8" from the edge of the tread blocks Edited June 12, 2012 by Phantom01Pathfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 It's the first time that I've had these particular tires, and I've only had this truck 9 months, so I'm keeping an eye on tread wear patterns. But, at 40f/37r psi I have a good looking contact patch. I rotate my tires every 5K miles at oil change time, and I do it myself, so I monitor wear pretty actively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom01Pathfinder Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 ok just thought i'd ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Wow. I've been running 40 psi for over a year now and my blocks are wearing, however they are seem to be wearing evenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) accurrate1- here's your spacer pics Edited June 17, 2012 by seeraedave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Pathfinder Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Where at in AZ are located? I'm in Mesa we have an all Nissan Offroad Club here. Truck looks nice by the way! I went with the Warn hubs nice to be able to lessen the wear and tear on the front drive train! I haven't seen any improvements on the gas mileage though which I was wishing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Thanks for the compliment, AZ, I'm in Ahwatukee. What's the contact for your club? There's some places that I'd like to go that in this state aren't the wisest to go into alone, there's a lot of desolation out there. When I'm out I have my hi-lift, tire repair kit, recovery kit, manual winch, 2 spare tires and on board air, but you never know when a ride may be handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I like the location of your on board air. May I ask about the cost and how you ran your air hose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 The compressor and inflation kit was about $310.00 to my door from Amazon. It was a little expensive, but what is the ability to pump up a tire in the boondocks worth? I bought the ARB inflation kit because ARB claims that you need a special heat resistant hose because the output from the compressor gets a little warm. Who knows, but I'm not about to find out in the middle of nowhere. The hose just jacks in like a typical compressor, for now it's just for tires. I've been contemplating air lockers, but this little truck 4 wheels pretty impressively the way that it is and I haven't really felt the need yet to hop up the axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyourface1650 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I thought that looked like 'Tukee. I'm there also. Well...for another 4 days. Moving to Denver CO on Friday. Shame we didnt get together earlier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accurrate1 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 accurrate1- here's your spacer pics Sweet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramdala Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Interesting, I air mine up to 40 psi on all corners (I'll go as low as 20 psi on the trails as I'm afraid I'll break the beads) but, I've not heard of running different pressures front/back? 40 psi...looks to much for me. I drive normally on 30 psi all corners and aired down to 8 psi on sand and 12-15 psi on other terrains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Pathfinder Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 What you're moving?? And Dave I could try and get something together with the group, our group isn't nearly as active as it once was but still a great group of people. . Perhaps just a meet up as its getting a bit too hot to wheel here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeraedave Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 I was up to Flag Sunday, bombing around the back side of Mt Humphry. Not really wheeling, but fun none the less. Did a bit of mountain biking too, my other hobby. Actually my main hobby, I've got a bike that I paid more for than I did my Pathy. I like to hike also. Heck, I like anything that's outdoors in this awesome state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynomax Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I think I see the size in the pic, look like 245/75/16? what lift do you have on that? I have those duratracs still sitting in my garage, I gotta get my 5 spoke wheels painted first. they look good, i'm still debating the white letter in/out thing, but my truck is silver and black looks good on yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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