Headlight upgrade

[PATHRIDER]

Hey guys its been almost a year since I last visited and kinda miss this site. Been busy with my little business and as usual my summer projects..Hope everybody's doing well

 

Need to get some opinion from you guys on upgrading my headlights..This has been a project that Ive been wanting to do for quite some time now but just doesnt know how to go about doing it.

Id like to keep it in a low budget and try to stay away from those expensive $500 hid conversion, I know theres probably cheaper ones out there but Ive seen the difference between the cheap set and the ones that are made in japan and germany and Id rather keep my silverstar than spend $200 on a cheap set

 

by the way my pathy has been converted to a 5x7 headlight like the ones found on older hardbody (sorry cant quite remember the year)

 

Heres my plan

 

 

buy these:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330326008604&ssPageName=ADME:B:BODO:MOT:1

 

two of these:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330500788500

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120654962364&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

and this:

 

http://www.eautoworks.com/products.php?product_id=189849

 

 

 

1750 lumens at low beam

 

3400-3500 lumens at high beam

 

osram silverstar

philips vision plus

 

Philips +80 XP (xtreme power)

 

 

H4 = 1000 lumen

H4+50 = 1148 lumen

H4+80 = ? not tested yet

 

If I go with the Philips I dont have to upgrade my wiring but since its cheap im just going to do it or build my own with 2 bosch relays.

 

Does anybody that upgraded their headlights wiring have a schematic on how you did it?

 

Your input is greatly appreciated

 

Thanks fellas

Edited December 8, 2010 by PATHRIDER

[Cuong Nguyen]

I am using a headlight wiring kit similar to what you linked. It uses your your factory headlight plug to trigger they relays on the harness to turn on your low and high beams.

[PATHRIDER]

I am using a headlight wiring kit similar to what you linked. It uses your your factory headlight plug to trigger they relays on the harness to turn on your low and high beams.

whered you get yours? any link?

[MY1PATH]

I would get the hella housings and use those instead. They are a known quality upgrade for many rigs running 5x7 beams.

[ahardb0dy]

I had the Hella conversion lights, not sure if they were the euro ones or not, I used 60/100 watt bulbs. They had 80/100 but I thought a 80 watt low beam was a little much for on road driving.

 

as for a wiring schematic it's fairly easy using relays ( the correct way), basically the wire that is feeding your existing headlights becomes the trigger wire for the relay, so on the relay you normally have 4 terminals, some have 5 and are known as a change over relay,

 

the 4 terminals are numbered and the numbers are universal so every relay uses the same numbers, the numbers are:

 

30 - 12 Volt in

87 - 12 volt out

87A - 12 volt out ( the change over part, when the relay is off 87A has power, when the relay is on (triggered) 87 has power and 87A is off) hence the changeover name

85 - ground

86 - trigger wire ( wire from switch or existing headlight wire)

 

So I would recommend mounting the relay as close to the battery as possible,

1. run a fused wire from the positive on the battery to terminal #30

2. connect a ground from terminal #85 to a good ground, I usually will just loop the ground back up to the relay mounting screw

3. connect a wire from terminal 87 and run it to the headlight furthest from the relay, than you can use a scotchlok connector near the close headlight to tap off of this wire to feed the close headlight

4. connect the existing headlight wire ( the wire that has 12 volts when you turn the headlights on) to terminal # 86

 

these directions would have to be repeated for the high beam, they do make double relays also that have one terminal #30 but 2 of all the other numbers.

 

there are probably other ways to do this still using relays this is just one way, others will have their own opinions on how to wire the 2 headlights to the one terminal on the relay, or you could just buy the headlight wiring kit.

Edited December 9, 2010 by ahardb0dy

[skulptr]

so could 87a be used as a sort of DRL setup?

[ahardb0dy]

yes, if the power source for the relay was only on with the key. But normally you would connect the 12 volt into the relay straight from the battery, the idea is the relay always has power than when you send power thru the trigger wire the relay engages and sends power out to the 87 Terminal. The reason these wiring upgrades are so good is the power only has to travel a short distance, from the battery to the relay and than to your lights.

[skulptr]

i've been curious as to where to find relays, and which ones to get. just googling 12 volt relays, eeeekk lets not go there.

[ahardb0dy]

i've been curious as to where to find relays, and which ones to get. just googling 12 volt relays, eeeekk lets not go there.

 

Any car stereo store that does installs or best buy, etc should have relays they can sell you. Auto parts stores, look near the driving light section

 

Summit racing sells these Hella relays, probably can get them cheaper though:

 

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLA-933791061/?rtype=10

[silverton]

You should be able to pick them up from shucks. go to the junkyard and pocket a few! they are all over the engine bays of everything.

[adamzan]

You can use the blue nissan relays. They are weather proof. The numbers aren't the same but it is easy to figure out and is better than the ****** black ones that you have to wrap half a roll of tape around to prevent corroding from water.

[ahardb0dy]

You can use the blue nissan relays. They are weather proof. The numbers aren't the same but it is easy to figure out and is better than the ****** black ones that you have to wrap half a roll of tape around to prevent corroding from water.

 

If you decide to use any relay that was OEM, make sure to cut the plug off and leave yourself a few inches of wire, some of the relays under the hood of the Nissan's came with clear rubber boots also.

 

this Nissan relay should work, not 100% sure of the numbers,

 

[MY1PATH]

I used a hella double relay from summit. They don't cary that model anymore...

and the hella converson lights are under $100 on summit. They use eropean reflectors for mor consistant beam patterns.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLA-003427811/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLA-003427291/

Edited December 11, 2010 by MY1PATH

[edicer2]

how about you just buy these

http://www.norcalmr2.com/pegasus/ (200$)

 

and get a ebay hid set 6k or 8k h7 (40$ for low only 75$ for high and low beam)

then get the wireing adaptors for yours for a extra ($20)