Guest Handyman Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 New to the forums and my current Pathfinder and I have a couple questions about it.. I just bought a 95 Pathfinder with the adjustable shocks and the front end seems to sit lower then the back.. Is this normal? Also seems to be lower on the passenger side. Is there anyway to raise the front end a little without a lift of any kind? I use to have a 88 Pathfinder and did not seem to sit the way this one does....As im driving i see ones that sit like mine and yet others that seem to be up a little more in the front Any help on this would be great thanks in advance... Oh and Nice community you have going here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statikuz Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Yep, search for torsion bar cranking and you'll get some info on raising your front end. Pathfinders do have a little of a nose-down tilt to them, I believe its so they're more stable at highway speeds or something to that effect. As for your passenger side being lower, I don't know what the problem could be there...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 his torsion bar on that side is probably out of whack check the notices in the garage topics and you should find out how to adjust them to equal height Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 ah here, it's on 88's forums here's the linkski: t-bar fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Handyman Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Thanks guys for all the links helps out a lot.......Little pissed i just got my alignment done however lol Oh well i will just do it again If im going to put the 3'' body lift on should i wait to adjust the torsion bars and do alignment again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 I plan to crank the torsion bars of my Path tomorrow morning. I guess it's just like yours, don't know if more sagged. I measured it today and the front end is 28.5"(passenger) and 28.75"(driver's side) high. My tires are 255/75R15, which would be about 30" unloaded... well, the fender flares hide about 1" of the tires. I hope I can get 2" of lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statikuz Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 You can do the body lift whenever... it won't put off your alignment. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Ha, that's funny, my tk is just the opposite. the front end is higher then the rear end and it does lean a bit toward the passengers rear. It's my rear springs though. worn out. no time for that project right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepRescueService14 Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 haha my pathy looks like a prerunner too my jgc spriongs are sagging a bit haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Well, I did it yesterday. Cranked the torsion bars so now my Path is 30" high, about 1" taller than on Saturday. But the passengers side height still lay 1/4" below the driver's side height. I'll drive it for a while more, and maybe on Wednesday I tight the t-bars a little more, half an inch would be good. This will add an extra time for me to save money for a more expensive lift, maybe changing the torsion bars and/or the UCAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Well, I did it yesterday.Cranked the torsion bars so now my Path is 30" high, about 1" taller than on Saturday. But the passengers side height still lay 1/4" below the driver's side height. I'll drive it for a while more, and maybe on Wednesday I tight the t-bars a little more, half an inch would be good. This will add an extra time for me to save money for a more expensive lift, maybe changing the torsion bars and/or the UCAs. It's common for either the drivers side or passenger side torsion bars to sag more than the otheras the years go by. When you crank them, one side may require more turns than the other to even it out as you know. If you are still having problems with one side sagging and not going any higher, re-indexing the bars should cure that hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 When you crank them, one side may require more turns than the other to even it out as you know. Do any of you remember or ever have an idea of how many turns you did when cranking the torsion bars? I thought I've read someone talkin'about it, but couldn't find the topic. I did five for now. I'm thinking of doing more two turns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Do any of you remember or ever have an idea of how many turns you did when cranking the torsion bars? I thought I've read someone talkin'about it, but couldn't find the topic.I did five for now. I'm thinking of doing more two turns... Mine was alot! Lol. It really depends on the condition of the T-bars. You should be measuring as you go along to get the desired height. If you aren't already (but probably are) park on a level surface and then pick a spot on the frame (or another surface) and measure to the ground for both drivers side and passenger side. One side may need more turns than the other to get equal heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Yes, I measured, and I did lift it about 1"1/4 each side. I thought I read someone say that started with 4 turns. I'm afraid of tightening too much. But I did 5 and I guess I can do more, so I'll turn maybe 2 on driver's and 3 on passenger's side (which is already a little bit lower) and run a few miles with the car to test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 I cranked it more so it's 3/4" higher now. It's 1"3/4 than before I began cranking the torsion bars. I've been thinking of reindexing it, but I didn't understand well how to do it. I'm gonna look the topics and links about it and maybe I'll do it a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Handyman Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 So is there a max of how many turns to put on the bars.... I have turned my driver side 4 and my passenger side 7 to bring it 1/4 inch off of each other now.. Would like to get them even however but dont want to screw something up Start points Driver side 15'' Passenger side 14 1/4 Ending points Driver Side 15 1/4 Passenger side 15 This after 4 turns on Driver and 7 on the passenger which seems Bad to me Advice WATNED : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 I measured from the ground to the fender flare, but since the measure from the ground to the center of the rim is not affected, I subtracted it (14" in mine). Start points Driver side 14"3/4 Passenger side 14"1/4 Ending points Driver Side 16"1/4 Passenger side 16" Turns Driver Side 7 1/2 Passenger Side 8 1/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 The torsion bars max out when they max out at the adjuster. If you can't crank them up anymore, then re-indexing is required. The number of turns on the adjuster bolt aren't as important as the overall ride height, in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitRo_BooGiE Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hi guys.This are all new to me and please excuse my newbie questions.What is indexing? Is there an instruction on doing this besides cranking the T bar? My 93 pathy sits lower in the front too and im not planning on getting any lift for it for now. I just want it to sit even with the back. Also in cranking the Tbar what tool do it use for that? Thanks fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statikuz Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 I don't think you need any special tools to crank your torsion bars. Reindexing is sort of like "resetting" your torsion bars after you've cranked 'em up, or if they're sagging a little bit. Search for "reindexing". How come you want the whole thing to be level? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitRo_BooGiE Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 It just looks funny with the rear end way up plus im going to put 31's on all four for now and fearing that it might hit my front fender well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statikuz Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 It shouldn't unless your front torsion bars are seriously sagging. If you say that the back end is WAY up then that must be the case and you're going to have to crank your torsion bars up. If you're worried about 31's fitting under your front fenders, then you definitely have a sagging issue, as some Pathfinders [like mine] came with 31" tires stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 I don't think you need any special tools to crank your torsion bars. Yeah, I used only the jack and jack stands to lift and support the vehicle, wd-40 to free the nuts, and a 10mm wrench. Or two... the lock nut and the adjuster nut where turning together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flnl Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 , and a 10mm wrench. Or two... OOOOPSS! It was a 19mm (3/4") wrench. The 10mm I used for another job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9sar Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 OOOOPSS! It was a 19mm (3/4") wrench. The 10mm I used for another job. just a minor difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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