jitterymonkey Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 (edited) Well, I'm probably not the 1st or the last. Step 1. Buy a really clean looking '95 Pathfinder Step 2. Join this forum Step 3. Read about the frame rust issues around the rear wheel wells Step 4. Inspect Step 5. suddenly get very depressed Have just used search in this forum and yahoo. Plenty of info on do it yourself patches and partial/complete frame replacements, but can't seem to find any info on what welding shops have charged other people. Doubt it can be patched, probably have to replace with a new section. Don't feel confident enough to fix it myself and will take it to a local shop Monday....... Just wanted to have an idea of how much. So maybe I won't be as sick to my stomach all weekend as I am right now. >Update< Talked to a local Frame specialist and guess what... He's working on a Pathfinder in his shop right now. Went to drive over there and guess what.... starter made 1 click then nothing. Should have ask him what he's charging that guy,DUH! Will get a quote 1st thing Mon. Dave by the way..... forgive me if this post is not in the right section and THANK YOU, THANK YOU for this forum and it's search engine. Read all about the intermittent starting issues. Tried a few things and when I held the key over to the start position for a few seconds she fired right up, and continues to start. After reading more posts on the topic I'm gonna try the relay first. Edited December 9, 2007 by 88pathoffroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 i am looking into this right now myself. no idea what to expect.. i just need to meet my guy and see which arm he may want... hope he doesn't want my leg too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitemedoughboy.com Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 i am looking into this right now myself. no idea what to expect.. i just need to meet my guy and see which arm he may want... hope he doesn't want my leg too. most welding shops will bill you at 80-100 bucks an hour plus materials and consumables if they are a union shop they may be higher.... may be cheaper to scan the junk yards and car lots for a beater and change the frame out.... may sound like a lot of work but if you can get a few extra hands you could do it in no time.... but ive done a few cab swaps on trucks before so its no big deal to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 (edited) My first pathy has the same problem. Its really a shame the rest of the truck is in great shape. I've decided that its not going to get fixed any time soon so i bought another one to drive. But I might still keep it as something to work on once i perfect my welding skills check out my threads, so you can get a feel for how bad yours really is. Mine is, well, it makes me sick to look underneath. Link 1 Link 2 link 3 Edited December 8, 2007 by redfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g5mike Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 I just had two hand size holes welded,for 150.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitterymonkey Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Well, I pulled out of my driveway tonight and heard a loud CLUNK. brake pedal went to the floor......Right rear frame section completely in 1/2 took out the brake line. Can't even get it to the frame shop now. It's sitting in my driveway with less than 20 miles on it since I bought it 3 days ago. 2 miles from the dealership. Bought it as is. I think each states different. Can't find anything about Ohio law Can the used car dealer legally sell me a very unsafe vehicle? Broken hearted in Ohio Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Oh, crap. I'm sorry, man! That's terrible! Hmmmm, I dunno but I bet if you made it known to the dealership that the frame broke in half on you two days after your purchase I bet they'd get something worked out for you. Tell them you're VERY VERY VERY GLAD you weren't driving it at 70 MPH on the freeway and you didn't take out other cars with you on the way due to their non-existent safety inspection practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Maybe if you talk to them enough they might pay for the repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitterymonkey Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 From what I found out on da web, I should have some ground to stand on in small claims court. Most states have a Implied warranty of merchantability law Problem is I can't seem to find anything in Ohio. What really bums me out is I love the Pathfinder, If I get my money back I'm gonna look for another one. Check it out. It was E-bay item # 110202546321 If i can find my @#$#@$ digital camera I'll post some pictures. Should have bought it on E-bay, Instead I made him an offer. At least it was me 2 miles from the dealer and not someone intending to drive it home to Canada. I'll keep letting ya know how it goes, if your interested. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 LOL mine had a car phone in it too. I wonder if that was an option. But yeah keep fighting it, looks like its in nice shape otherwise. My first one has all the leather and goodies too. But for my dad (he owned it before me) karma's a b!tch because he didn't keep up with all the rust proofing. Good luck ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzy Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 awee dude, that sucks... good luck. Glad to hear you're looking for another pathy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitterymonkey Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 GOT AN ESTIMATE Frame specialist in town will make a whole new rear frame section for $1500.00 Dealer says it's not worth it and he's got a certified welder that might be able to fix it. Stay tuned for 'AS THE PATHFINDER RUSTS' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 The dealer says a lot of things don't they? What makes it worth it or not is how the rest of the truck is mechanically, rust wise, and how much it means to you.....Some are more attached to their pathy's than others. at "As the pathfinder rusts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitterymonkey Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 I paid $2000.00 $1500.00 would be worth it to me. I really love the dang thing. But for $3500 I might be able to find one with a good frame. If the dealer wants his guy to do it,I'm going to have it checked out by my frame shop after. I could be wrong but I think a vehicles frame would be very difficult to do right. Don't want the thing driving down the road sideways or ripping in 1/2 again on the trail 50 miles from anywhere. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Mines fairly rotted, like theres no way in hell it'd ever pass an inspection the way it is now. But I've moved it around on the yard and through the forest trails, and the frame hasn't snapped yet, although one of the cross members fell off, but that was before we stopped driving it and before i joined this board. My brake line got taken out too, so I feel your pain. I'm going to hold on to this truck until I can afford to have the rear end rebuilt, and until then I'll be driving my 95. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Sorry about the Frame... If the dealer says its not worth the $1500 then have him refund you the purchase price... We will happily assist in finding a suitable Pathy in your price range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 may want to talk to your attorney general and look into OH lemon laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't know how close this is, but if you're looking for another one....http://dayton.craigslist.org/car/499409815.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerranoNZ Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I paid $2000.00 $1500.00 would be worth it to me. I really love the dang thing. But for $3500 I might be able to find one with a good frame. If the dealer wants his guy to do it,I'm going to have it checked out by my frame shop after. I could be wrong but I think a vehicles frame would be very difficult to do right. Don't want the thing driving down the road sideways or ripping in 1/2 again on the trail 50 miles from anywhere. Dave Get friendly with someone in shipping and get mine picked up Then the loooooooong process of swapping the frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitterymonkey Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 More bad news. Have been getting the run around from the dealer. So I started looking into taking him to small claims court. Talked to the Ohio Attorney generals office and they told me Ohio's a BUYER BEWARE STATE If I bought it as is, No matter what happens after I drive it off the lot, there's nothing I can do about it. She told me it would be a waste of my money to take him to small claims court. It's still sitting at the dealers, guess I'll wait and see how honest this used car dealer really is. If he's not going to do anything. it might be worth the $60.00 to take him to small claims court just to mess with him. If ya don't know this already... Don't buy a car "as is" in a BUYER BEWARE state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 BBB... surrisingly, i have gotten favorable results by moaning and complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey.T Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 File a complaint with the local better business, email the local news people... Good Human interest story for this time of year... Dont get mad, get even.... It is a legitimate complaint, and the news guys love ripping up used car lots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitterymonkey Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 This is kinda fun in a sick way, Like playing detective Still getting the run around..... Filed a complaint with the BBB, e-mailed the local paper and am going to get my Pathfinder back from the dealers today(Sat) even if I have to call the cops( They have it blocked in by other vehicles for some reason) A reverse directory search of the dealers cell phone number came up with a different name. his answering machine says his name is Jim Armadas? directory says Jim Morris HMMMM. still searching for an address. Receipt from the dealer says Automotion car sales... The temp tag registration says Jeff's millennium car sales. Also they had about 6 cars on e-bay and now their profile and all the cars on auction have been deleted. I'm worried if I don't get it back soon it's gonna disappear too. should have just taken it to the frame shop in the 1st place. Have to let the weld shop know I plan on lifting it AND taking it off-road. don't want the frame breaking in 1/2 on the trail. Pictures coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitemedoughboy.com Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 This is kinda fun in a sick way, Like playing detectiveStill getting the run around..... Filed a complaint with the BBB, e-mailed the local paper and am going to get my Pathfinder back from the dealers today(Sat) even if I have to call the cops( They have it blocked in by other vehicles for some reason) A reverse directory search of the dealers cell phone number came up with a different name. his answering machine says his name is Jim Armadas? directory says Jim Morris HMMMM. still searching for an address. Receipt from the dealer says Automotion car sales... The temp tag registration says Jeff's millennium car sales. Also they had about 6 cars on e-bay and now their profile and all the cars on auction have been deleted. I'm worried if I don't get it back soon it's gonna disappear too. should have just taken it to the frame shop in the 1st place. Have to let the weld shop know I plan on lifting it AND taking it off-road. don't want the frame breaking in 1/2 on the trail. Pictures coming soon. too bad you dont live in the PNW... they dont use salt on the roads, and you can buy a good pathfinder for 2-4k any day of the week, theres always a few for sale up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitterymonkey Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 It's at the frame shop, waiting on the estimate. Oh, the catalytic converter got cut off while it sat at the dealers. In fact all the vehicles at the dealer had the converters cut off. If your going to that much trouble, you my as well get a real job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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