ShadowManR6 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 So decided to finally go in to Nissan for my alignment after my lift, after 2 days of them dinking with it said they were unable to get it to align right. Now one of my friends had to get a sort of camber kit for his truck after his lift, is there some sort of special kit i need to find for my 87 pathy? or should i head to some the specialty offroad stores in my area and see if they can do the alignment...Any ideas? thanks ahead of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 What couldn't they get right? The camber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowManR6 Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 all he told me was that they had it up on the rack and had 2 guys both try and get to align and had no luck =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Is your Pathy stock? Info, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavelow Leaks Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 It's next to impossible to get the camber perfect if you crank the T-bars to max with stock upper arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowManR6 Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 im useing the aftermarket UCA's from 4x4parts, i had to crank my bars abit to get to level out enough with the new coils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Uh-oh. That may be your problem...maybe ask them over at AC why it can't be aligned? Their UCA's are notoriously difficult to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowManR6 Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 went to a nice offroad shop that alotta local guys use, they were saying that with alotta the older nissans the bolts that connect the upper link spindle to the frame are so short it makes it extremely hard to align and put in shims. without chancing that the first bump you hit good won't just strip the whole damn thing out, he told me go to some custom bolt places around town get it a good inch or so longer, so they have more to work with and he can basically gurantee the alignment will work, so guess time to find the strongest metal bolt i can afford to stick in there if they really gotta make it longer like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperSon Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I seen a post before where a member used studs and nut I guess the stud is so that it doesnt go all the way in like when youre using bolts and gives more adjustability on the nut besides being longer. If you cant find a bolt at your local shop lemme know and ill check one here coz a month ago I replaced my spindle to frame bolt and im sure they have one thats a few mil longer with the same tencile strenght of 10.9 at 1.50 pitch. Cant remember how long the factory one is tho . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 14mm x 1.5 thread pitch x 60mm long total length is stock. I found 70mm long replacements for my Pathy at a farm and tractor supply store for about $5 each. Large metric bolts are hard to find. I can get some more if you can't find any locally. Let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme90path Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 yeah, when I had my pathy aligned with the calminis they had the same problem, so went to a much longer bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msavides Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 So has anyone had problems with the longer bolts breaking due to too much leverage put on them from being longer. I have had a few people tell me that you are stressing the bolts and that they could break due to the arm being out further. since so many people have done this there has to be a failure for this to be true. Mark yeah, when I had my pathy aligned with the calminis they had the same problem, so went to a much longer bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 It's next to impossible to get the camber perfect if you crank the T-bars to max with stock upper arms. True dat, but the key word is "NEXT" to impossible. After four tries, I have my camber to within 1/8 degree of what I wanted! With my Rough Country UCA's and only about 1.5 to 2" of t-bar crank (to minimize CV boot failures), I had problems getting camber dialed in. My solution was to CAREFULLY ovalize the upper ball joint bolt holes to physically move the ball joint about 1/8". And then backfilled the hole with some welding and then finish filed the holes so there was no slop. Took a bit of time and experimentation, but I got it dialed in perfect with about 1/16" to 1/8" of shims so I have future tweakability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 msavides: the spindle will bend long before the bolts will fail. They're huge! I've bent several spindles, so at least for me it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kn0xville Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 hey 88! i need 4 longer than stock bolts for mine, i cant find em ANYWHERE around here! Im guessing my 93 pathy is the same as yours. BUT, i think a strength of 8.8 would be better, dont want em to strong, they'll snap easier... can you hook me up? PM me if so.. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I'll have a look and let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 i cant find em ANYWHERE around here! Ok, so I guess you probably need this... http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=2...=21&cd=1384 B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kn0xville Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 thank you!... what length would i want??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 14mm x 1.5 thread pitch x 60mm long total length is stock. I found 70mm long replacements for my Pathy I don't know first hand, but it seems like 70mm is suitable, but I doubt 75mm would hurt (thats an additional .2" of thread). It's a thru hole without immediate obstruction behind it, right? Then go to 80mm for good luck? 25.4mm=1". 1mm=.0394" 5mm of 1.5 pitch thread=3.4 turns If the thread is there, use it. If it can pass thru, do so. You're welcome. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kn0xville Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 thanks... ordered 75mm's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 No problem, let us know how it works out. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBob Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) if i have the calmini UCAs will i still need to get longer bolts? Shouldn't the aftermarket UCAs fix the adjustment problem to not require longer bolts? Shouldnt that be part of the reason to get new UCAs?? or is it just AC that decided not to account for this problem? Reason i ask is cause im installing the calmini replacement steering system tomorrow and need to have it alligned on friday cause im driving down to SLO tomorrow.. dont know if i can get these bolts by then heh Edited May 16, 2007 by JoeBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 You "shouldn't" need them, however.....in some cases, even with decent aftermarket UCA's, longer bolts have been needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kn0xville Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 i have the rough country UCAs, and i need them. The aftermarket UCAs never really give a FULL 3 inches, so when you lift your front to match your rear, your gonna need shims, you probably have shims in there from factory... the longer bolts are more of a 'you never know' kinda thing... rather be safe than sorry! And i got my bolts in the mail the other day... damn they long! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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