milehighcowboy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 i want some freaking lockers on my pathy. i am trying to find a factory issured one that i might be able to pull off of a junked out truck some where. any one know what vehicles i would be looking for? or axle types? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Pickles Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) hahahahahaha.......... no chance. Ok, sorry. Best bet would be a factory LSD, or buy an aftermarket locker. Other than that on a 92, nada, sorry. The rears has a few options (barely) if you hunt around, front I think only one or 2 I think (ARB? LSD swap-in, can't remember). Anyways, its been covered many times, search is your friend. Edited December 21, 2006 by Mr. Pickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighcowboy Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 ok for an LSD how much help will it add. & what would welding the spider gears do to my ride? i am not too convered with it. going round corners. driving in 2wd. snow driving. raing. puddles. mud. and does any one have pics of a welded spider so i can see what i am welding to gether exactly. and where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 The stock LSD works OK mostly. It's not the best, though. A Lock-Right works great and costs about $250. Best part is you don't have to weld anything or even set up gears, it fits right in between the side gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveMyPatty Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I looked on the Powertrax site and under the applications it doesn't list anything for Nissans...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partpathfinder Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 If you google the type of rear you have you will get an endless amount of lockers that will fit. I found out by mistake just what is out there by googling h233b. But I also have a '95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveMyPatty Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 This could be a really stupid question... Is there any type of locker for the front? Is it even possible with IFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj big shoe Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 ARB is the only company that makes a locker for the R200 fronts. IIRC, about $700-$800 for the locker and compressor. Or you could buy a LSD for the front from Calmini for about $450 or use the LSD rear carrier from a 87-89 300ZX turbo but fat chance ever finding one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighcowboy Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 what kinda work am i looking at for an install on a lock-right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavelow Leaks Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88_Pathy Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I don't know about endless but I only know of 3: ARB, lockrite and Detroit. Good luck finding a Detroit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partpathfinder Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I don't know about endless but I only know of 3: ARB, lockrite and Detroit. Good luck finding a Detroit though. I sent a parts requst yesterday for a h233b with factory lockers and disc brakes and got 7 e-mails from companys that have them. the cheapest was $325-$350 with warrant (1 year). If interested pm me. I dont know how to link yet. And I will get back to you tomorrow.I have to get up early to finish CAT rebuild. So good night and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Distributors for the same parts, or what? There CAN'T be 7 different products available and nobody knows about more than 3. Also, the H233B changes axle spline count after 95 and then again for different vehicles(X, Frontier, Pathfinder)...I think. The locker would have to be for the pre-96 H233B. A locker in the front of a otherwise stock Pathfinder would wreck the front end in no time. Not for the faint of heart, in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrailChaser Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 My old pathy is sitting in a junk yard somewhere with a rear locker... Good luck finding it tho. I looked for it for a while after I bought my current pathy. The cheapest locker you'll find IIRC is on ebay being sold by rockyroadoutfitters in there ebay store. That's where I bought my new locker that I have now. They even had it shipped to me pretty quick. They don't stock'em, they just have them drop shipped from Richmond Gear who makes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroad95pathy Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Here's some info from Arb's app chart for spline counts for diffs on Nissan trucks: Also a link for info on diffs, trans, and final ratios on Nissan products: http://www.vibratesoftware.com/html_help/h....htm#Pathfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroad95pathy Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 It seems that AC is still listing Detroit lockers for H233B diffs at the tune of $450, so it could be carelessly assumed they still have some. Would it be worth the extra $171 over the Lock Right? Are the Detroits that much better or is it a name thing? I am considering of dropping a locker in my rear diff and was leaning toward the Lock Right, I just want to make sure I wasn't wasting my time or money. I don't want to start making a habit of having to tear into my rear diff on a regular basis. Any experience and/or comments appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 The Detroit is an older "classic" design. The Lock-Rite is a newish design and is impressively simple - less parts means less cost. Which is better? Hmmmm.... which tastes better - Apples or oranges? Off road, I'll argue they're equally capable. On road, I think I give a slight nod towards the Detroit, as the Lock-Rite does not unlock as easily as I would prefer in corners. You have to think more with the Lock-Rite. If you're on the throttle, it is locked - period. Makes tight corners on asphalt difficult to execute smoothly and quietly. Hop hop hop POP.... Those of us with them have adapted and I have no intents of giving it up, but letting others drive requires advance notice of what's going to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Oh, and when I was considering what to get, I narrowed it down to two options: Cost is an issue: Lockrite Cost is not an issue: ARB The Detroit only received passing interest... If I could afford more than the lockrite, I would keep saving until I could go top shelf and get the ARB. Lockrite=Chevy Detroit=Cadillac ARB= BMW or Mercedes I've never been interested in caddies - if I'm going to spend that much extra $, I'm going all the way and going for the best. I really, really like the controllability of an ARB - especially on snow or ice. If you are capable of thinking and understanding when a locked axle is better and when an open is better, you can manually optimize for conditions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5523Pathfinder Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I think its time for a sticky for people who have lockers to tell others about them. I think Pavelow nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroad95pathy Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Thanks mws! The info was greatly appreciated, no one drives my pathy but me, its my toy, so everything I do is my personal pref. I'll probably buy the ARB compressor kit first, then the lockout unit, It'll be easier on my budget and my wife! Made a good point about controllability, that settled it for me. I don't mind spending the extra money, even if it takes a little longer to put together as long as it is well spent, I hate spending the money and the regretting it afterwards. Does installing the ARB lockout require resetting the pinion/ring gears? Not a prob, just curious. I just put a brand new LSD from AC in my front diff, added an extra disc on both sides. I think the ARB should compliment quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrafinder Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I was just looking at the Lock rites pic. I understand why there would be a ratcheting noise and even in the pants feel when cornering under power. What if each individual gear tooth was "deburred" slightly to ease unlocking on the steet. Cou;ld that infact give a better street attitude for us that dont go off road regulary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Mayyyybeeee..... But I think you're on your own there, I haven't heard of anyone trying that yet. Personally, I'm doubtful. Anything I can see to do would result in it more likely to unlock at heavy loads - exactly what you don't want. I really wish they (Richmond) offered the PowerTrax as well as the Lock-Right for the H233B, as it sounds like it would be much nicer on the street. But they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 The easier it is to unlock, the easier it will be to lose traction in an offroad situation where you really need it. I've had mine ratchet and unlock in the sand when I got high-centered before. Other than that it's worked flawlessly and I won't say a bad word about it. Richmond Gear produces the PowerTrax Lock-Right locker. It's all the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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