thorpe991 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) so i want to put in hid lightsbut want the projector head lights lens and nobody sells them and jdm ones are impossible to find i was looking at a 96 or something ford explorer that i was parked net to at Walmart and they look the same but the explored is plastic and is split into different sections and the corner lamp is hooked to the headlight instead of separate. has anybody tried to fit them into the pathfinder ? summitracing.com has projectors for the explorer for $312.97 ( http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ann-111132/overview/year/1997/make/ford/model/explorer) or just after market ones for $149.97( http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ann-111039/overview/year/1997/make/ford/model/explorer ) i will be more than willing to go to my local jy and pic one up of the stock ones to try it if no hasn't yet maybe you could just remove the lens from the mount and hook it to the pathfinder mount (just brainstorming if the mounts are different) i know that the wiring would have to be spliced into to fit the ford lights but they use a 9007 and the pathfinder uses 9004 and they have the same plug so mabey not Edited January 29, 2014 by thorpe991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 so i want to put in hid lightsbut want the projector head lights lens and nobody sells them and jdm ones are impossible to find i was looking at a 96 or something ford explorer that i was parked net to at Walmart and they look the same but the explored is plastic and is split into different sections and the corner lamp is hooked to the headlight instead of separate. has anybody tried to fit them into the pathfinder ? summitracing.com has projectors for the explorer for $312.97 ( http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ann-111132/overview/year/1997/make/ford/model/explorer) or just after market ones for $149.97( http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ann-111039/overview/year/1997/make/ford/model/explorer ) i will be more than willing to go to my local jy and pic one up of the stock ones to try it if no hasn't yet maybe you could just remove the lens from the mount and hook it to the pathfinder mount (just brainstorming if the mounts are different) i know that the wiring would have to be spliced into to fit the ford lights but they use a 9007 and the pathfinder uses 9004 and they have the same plug so mabey not With deep enough pockets it can be made to work. Wiring is different from a 9004 to a 9007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 If you look up the 9007 and the 9004 they have the same end : http://betterautomotivelighting.com/2012/08/13/difference-between-9004-and-9007-bulbs/ but in that it shoes the prongs mean different things so by switching pins it would be easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Could work if you don't mind the fugly factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If you look up the 9007 and the 9004 they have the same end : http://betterautomotivelighting.com/2012/08/13/difference-between-9004-and-9007-bulbs/ but in that it shoes the prongs mean different things so by switching pins it would be easy The same could be said for any dual filament headlight bulb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) The same could be said for any dual filament headlight bulb. well i was just getting at that the way they hook to the lens and how they plug in is the same so Could work if you don't mind the fugly factor. well there are other ones on there those are just the ones i liked and if it does work its alot cheaper than getting jdms imported and having to put the updated front end on this weekend its suposed to warm up to 37-40 deg here in ny so i plan on going to the local jy and tearing one out of a explorer and seeing if it will fit in one of the pathfinders that is in there Edited January 30, 2014 by thorpe991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 well i was just getting at that the way they hook to the lens and how they plug in is the same so well there are other ones on there those are just the ones i liked and if it does work its alot cheaper than getting jdms imported and having to put the updated front end on this weekend its suposed to warm up to 37-40 deg here in ny so i plan on going to the local jy and tearing one out of a explorer and seeing if it will fit in one of the pathfinders that is in there a 9004 and 9007 are slightly differently. The way the filaments are set and the lock tabs are placed in the opposite position. Basically you can't easily make a 9007 fit in a 9004 housing. And the beam would be all jacked up from oppositely set filaments. What I recommend, and it's only slightly less ugly than Exploder lights, is to swap out your headlight buckets for the similar body style pickup headlight buckets. This allows you to run any type of H4 replacement housing that fits in the american standard sealed beam. Which I believe there are some after market projector lights in the 7x6 size. Here is a picture of my truck with ebay hardbody grill and aftermarket H4 headlights, not projectors. What you need is the grill and headlight buckets from a Hardbody pickup, you can see the Pathfinder corner markers, but Hardbody ones "fit" the grill better as it's of a slightly different design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle94 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Wait wait, Thorpe has an r50.... lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Oh wow, so he does! Disregard what I was saying then. What the hell was nissan thinking? Using the 9004 bulb STILL in the newer model? It's the worst headlight design in the history of ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I think you'd have better luck retrofitting a projector housing out of something else, and hopefully get hids along with it. I'm thinking a q45 or BMW. May need a clear lens, but the cutoff should be appropriate. Edited January 31, 2014 by Karmann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I think you'd have better luck retrofitting a projector housing out of something else, and hopefully get hids along with it. I'm thinking a q45 or BMW. May need a clear lens, but the cutoff should be appropriate. https://www.google.com/search?q=q45&espv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&imgil=91gUC0omnCg0XM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcThkrzLsfYBvz1wGvq5gYad7LHcXYqRB2q73OlHFan_IuJkzVmd%253B1024%253B768%253BCCcKZCSFrgCJxM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.q45.org%25252F&source=iu&usg=__KUZdWhN0nBGw-6KzoDXfPXqAgxs%3D&sa=X&ei=J7PrUoiQBcWdyQH6yoCwDQ&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAg&biw=1280&bih=933#imgdii=_ is this what you mean by a q45? and i think the lenses wouldn't be tall enuff to fit a 9004 and 9007 are slightly differently. The way the filaments are set and the lock tabs are placed in the opposite position. Basically you can't easily make a 9007 fit in a 9004 housing. And the beam would be all jacked up from oppositely set filaments. What I recommend, and it's only slightly less ugly than Exploder lights, is to swap out your headlight buckets for the similar body style pickup headlight buckets. This allows you to run any type of H4 replacement housing that fits in the american standard sealed beam. Which I believe there are some after market projector lights in the 7x6 size. Here is a picture of my truck with ebay hardbody grill and aftermarket H4 headlights, not projectors. What you need is the grill and headlight buckets from a Hardbody pickup, you can see the Pathfinder corner markers, but Hardbody ones "fit" the grill better as it's of a slightly different design. im not talking about putting 9007 bulbs in my housing im talking about taking a explorer housing and putting that in my pathfinder the explorer housing uses a 9007 bulb so tomarro i head to the jy to tray and Frankenstein a pathfinder in the yard with a explorer headlight ill take pics as i go haha so ill be spending like 2-3 hrs in the yrd Edited January 31, 2014 by thorpe991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 i was just looking at the 1999 ford f150 and they might work to so im going to try those to here are some aftermarket ones from summit http://www.summitracing.com/parts/grm-09-1134-1lb/overview/year/1999/make/ford/model/f-150 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/grm-09-1155/overview/year/1999/make/ford/model/f-150 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/grm-09-1149/overview/year/1999/make/ford/model/f-150 http://www.summitracing.com/search/year/1999/make/ford/model/f-150/department/exterior-accessories/section/lights-lenses/part-type/headlight-assemblies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 What I was suggesting is to Frankenstein a q45's hid housing in, the part of the headlight with the projector beam only. Certain generations had them I believe, or a j30 could be a good candidate too. You'd have to buy an hid conversion kit, but it would be a hell of a lot brighter than just a bulb upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 What I was suggesting is to Frankenstein a q45's hid housing in, the part of the headlight with the projector beam only. Certain generations had them I believe, or a j30 could be a good candidate too. You'd have to buy an hid conversion kit, but it would be a hell of a lot brighter than just a bulb upgrade. so like take the glass lens off the pathfinder housing and put a projector in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmann Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 so like take the glass lens off the pathfinder housing and put a projector in it? Yes essentially. I've seen it done on the face lifted pathfinders, and it seems relatively easy. Are there clear lenses available for the pre-facelift r50s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 mine are clear but i think they have the like edges cut in them for light displacement or whatever it is ill cheak tonight and i went and tried the head lights the mounts are slightly diff but with drilling in the mount it would work but they are different shaped and would need the for grill which will also fit with slight modification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Sounds like a lot of work for a bulb that isn't much better than the 9004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Agreed. Just add relays and make sure the lamps are aimed properly. Just my opinion but those had to be the ugliest ford trucks ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The headlight housings play a vast majority in that A relay harness, a QUALITY bulb, and proper headlight alignment would do you wonders. I recommend Osram or Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 I wasent looking to just go to the stock explorer headlight I was going for a aftermarket projection headlight so I could run hids with out the blinding affect of running them in normal housings and yes they are the uglyist as stok but some of the after market lamps don't look to bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 You should just do a retrofit. Even with fluted housings stock, the intensity of the focus on a projector shouldn't even affect it much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 im not worried about the light output because ether way it will be bright i just want projectors for other drivers benifets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOKEYR50 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Here's my retro.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpe991 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 ya i was looking at your post a couple days ago ow did you mount the projector and get the bulb mount to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOKEYR50 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Projector threads straight into the hole for the stock bulb. It gets secured with a locking ring from behind. You can buy adapter plates that fit into the stock globe position that set the orientation straight so that your cut off lines are level, but mine were a bit off and I had to manually align them. See retrofitsource.com - there is heaps of info on there, their site has become much more informative over the past year. When I started doing retros it was a matter of screwing projectors into housings and praying it came out straight. Nowadays they have kits for pretty much everything - the hardest part is getting up the courage to take your lights apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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