drewp29 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 So I think I finally have a good plan for upgrading (and fixing . . . lol) the Pathy. Let me know what you think. Fixes and upgrades in order of completion: Purchase used rear axle assembly. I haven't pulled the trigger on this yet because things have been crazy busy lately. Anyway, I plan to pull the rear differential out, get to know it intimately by taking it apart and putting it back together several times . . . checking backlash and engagement each time. Once I am comfortable with the process I'll pull my current crappy rear diff and steal some friction plates and friction discs. I'm thinking 2 of each per side if it won't be too tight, opinions on that are welcome. Add them to the new (used) diff and put it back in old housing for a tighter, more off road capable set-up. Warn manual hubs. I have the stock 16" 6 spoke SE wheels so I'll put these straight on when I get them. AC 2" lift coils from 4x4parts.com. I had originally considered the OME lift package from Rocky Road, but after comparing pictures of lift height I definitely like the 'little bit extra' look of the AC over the EMUs. KYB Excel-G struts and Bilstein or KYB Gas-A-Just rear dampers. I'd prefer 5100 series Bilsteins but don't know what the part number is with 2" lift. If anyone knows and would post it that would be excellent! I'd rather buy them separately from the coils from somewhere other than 4x4parts. Rims - Mickey Thompson Classic II - LINKY It sucks trying to find rims I like that A. Have ~ -3.75" BS, B. Won't break the bank, and 3. Are 16" rims to fit over the front calipers. There's a ton in 15" diameter, but 16" rims get little to no love. Anyone know if the MT Classic IIs will work with the Warn hubs? Tires - Falken Rocky Mountain LT265/75R16 - LINKY I've read some really positive reviews on these, and for the price I don't know if they can be beat. So, there's the plan. Obviously with the lift I'll replace strut mounts, etc. and other necessary items for the other upgrades as well. Thanks for reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow4me Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 So I think I finally have a good plan for upgrading (and fixing . . . lol) the Pathy. Let me know what you think. Fixes and upgrades in order of completion: Purchase used rear axle assembly. I haven't pulled the trigger on this yet because things have been crazy busy lately. Anyway, I plan to pull the rear differential out, get to know it intimately by taking it apart and putting it back together several times . . . checking backlash and engagement each time. Once I am comfortable with the process I'll pull my current crappy rear diff and steal some friction plates and friction discs. I'm thinking 2 of each per side if it won't be too tight, opinions on that are welcome. Add them to the new (used) diff and put it back in old housing for a tighter, more off road capable set-up. Warn manual hubs. I have the stock 16" 6 spoke SE wheels so I'll put these straight on when I get them. AC 2" lift coils from 4x4parts.com. I had originally considered the OME lift package from Rocky Road, but after comparing pictures of lift height I definitely like the 'little bit extra' look of the AC over the EMUs. KYB Excel-G struts and Bilstein or KYB Gas-A-Just rear dampers. I'd prefer 5100 series Bilsteins but don't know what the part number is with 2" lift. If anyone knows and would post it that would be excellent! I'd rather buy them separately from the coils from somewhere other than 4x4parts. Rims - Mickey Thompson Classic II - LINKY It sucks trying to find rims I like that A. Have ~ -3.75" BS, B. Won't break the bank, and 3. Are 16" rims to fit over the front calipers. There's a ton in 15" diameter, but 16" rims get little to no love. Anyone know if the MT Classic IIs will work with the Warn hubs? Tires - Falken Rocky Mountain LT265/75R16 - LINKY I've read some really positive reviews on these, and for the price I don't know if they can be beat. So, there's the plan. Obviously with the lift I'll replace strut mounts, etc. and other necessary items for the other upgrades as well. Thanks for reading! I'll hook you up with the 5100 series rear shock numbers for the 2" lift tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewp29 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Awesome! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 You shouldn't have any problems with 15" rims clearing the calipers. I replaced my tri-spoke 16" wheels with some 15" Pro Comp rims. Plus, 15" tires tend to be a little cheaper (which is why I went down a size). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow4me Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 You shouldn't have any problems with 15" rims clearing the calipers. I replaced my tri-spoke 16" wheels with some 15" Pro Comp rims. Plus, 15" tires tend to be a little cheaper (which is why I went down a size). Your avatar freaks me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom01Pathfinder Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 You shouldn't have any problems with 15" rims clearing the calipers. I replaced my tri-spoke 16" wheels with some 15" Pro Comp rims. Plus, 15" tires tend to be a little cheaper (which is why I went down a size). did you grind down your calipers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewp29 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Really? From what I read in this THREAD it seems iffy. Let me know if I am incorrect on this. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 You don't need 3.75" BS wheels to run 265/75R16 tires. I've got the AC lift, and I fit BFG MT KM2's (265/75R16) on a set of Ultra Motorsports Rogue 175 wheels (16x8/6x5.5/10mm offset). To run 285/75R16s you might need a wheel spacer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewp29 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 What's the backspacing on those wheels XPLORx4? Just curious . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Let me double-check on those wheel specs. I may have gotten the offset wrong. I used this chart when I searched for wheels that specified offset, but didn't specify backspacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrariowner123 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I'll hook you up with the 5100 series rear shock numbers for the 2" lift tonight. Hey if your handing our part numbers, im thinking of pretty much the same setup as the OP, and looking to save cash where ever i can. Thanks -Kyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow4me Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Hey if your handing our part numbers, im thinking of pretty much the same setup as the OP, and looking to save cash where ever i can. Thanks -Kyle Sorry, your post count is too low. Once it gets up to about twenty, we'll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) Hey if your handing our part numbers, im thinking of pretty much the same setup as the OP, and looking to save cash where ever i can. Thanks -Kyle I got 5150's with 255/70 valving (part number 25-186307). The 5100-equivalent part number for the AC 2" lift is 33-185552. Edited March 22, 2012 by XPLORx4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewp29 Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Let me double-check on those wheel specs. I may have gotten the offset wrong. I used this chart when I searched for wheels that specified offset, but didn't specify backspacing. So if I am reading the chart correctly then 10mm offset is ~4 7/8" BS on an 8" wide rim? Hmmm . . . things to think about then. I do kinda like the Mickey Thompsons, but that broadens the range quite a bit if those work for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) OK, 10mm offset/4.875" backspacing sounds right. I remember that I wasn't certain that 265/75R16 tires would fit on my Pathy with those wheels, so I purchased a pair of 1" wheel spacers before I went to the tire store for wheel/tire mounting. I had fully intended to install the spacers with the wheels, but when the tire store performed a test fit without the spacers, the tires had no clearance issues at all. That may not be the case for all tires, since the tread width and shoulder design of certain tires may cause rubbing. Like I said, I'm running BFG MT KM2's, which have no clearance issues. Edited March 22, 2012 by XPLORx4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Really? From what I read in this THREAD it seems iffy. Let me know if I am incorrect on this. Thanks! And in this thread I replied ... I am running 15x8 ProComp's on mine with the exact same specs you are considering. I had my brakes, rotors, and calipers replaced since the wheel swap and did not have any issues at all. I too was concerned and warned the mechanic that was doing the break job of the possibility of clearance issues. He carefully mounted the wheels and claimed that he didn't detect any rubbing. I'll admit, the calipers are really f'in close to the wheel though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewp29 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 And in this thread I replied ... Cool, I wonder if it is dependent on the specific rim? I have read a few posts that some people successfully ground their caliper to stop rubbing on the rim. I'd like to stay away from that, not that there's anything really wrong with it, I just want to err on the side of caution when it comes to safety equipment. I do like the rim/tire selection better for 15s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonianwalk Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Cool, I wonder if it is dependent on the specific rim? ... I wondered about that as well (at the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynomax Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 So if I am reading the chart correctly then 10mm offset is ~4 7/8" BS on an 8" wide rim? Hmmm . . . things to think about then. I do kinda like the Mickey Thompsons, but that broadens the range quite a bit if those work for you! I know a set of Mickey Thompsons I hate, are the Baja ATZ. Reconsider these if they were on your list. I thought BFG AT's were bad in mud and snow. My Duratracs should be here Monday thankfully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrariowner123 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Sorry, your post count is too low. Once it gets up to about twenty, we'll talk. I understand, appreciate the help in the future, (i hope, lol) I got 5150's with 255/70 valving (part number 25-186307). The 5100-equivalent part number for the AC 2" lift is 33-185552. Thanks! Plus VIBES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow4me Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I understand, appreciate the help in the future, (i hope, lol) Thanks! Plus VIBES! I was just kidding, I will be posting my number later this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow4me Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) I was just kidding, I will be posting my number later this morning. Edited March 23, 2012 by snow4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdj Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) I know a set of Mickey Thompsons I hate, are the Baja ATZ. Reconsider these if they were on your list. I thought BFG AT's were bad in mud and snow. My Duratracs should be here Monday thankfully! I have BFG AT's on mine and I think they work great in mud and snow. It'll go through the snow till the bumper starts to plow. Edited March 23, 2012 by kdj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewp29 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I know a set of Mickey Thompsons I hate, are the Baja ATZ. Reconsider these if they were on your list. I thought BFG AT's were bad in mud and snow. My Duratracs should be here Monday thankfully! I was actually talking about the rims, Thompson tires are a bit outside my self designated price range. I really like the reviews and the look of the Duratracs as well - congrats on yours! @snow4me - Interesting when I search that Bilstein part number it shows it for a Ford Ranger with 4" of lift. Those are the ones you have on your Pathy? Man I would have never found those by searching! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow4me Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I was actually talking about the rims, Thompson tires are a bit outside my self designated price range. I really like the reviews and the look of the Duratracs as well - congrats on yours! @snow4me - Interesting when I search that Bilstein part number it shows it for a Ford Ranger with 4" of lift. Those are the ones you have on your Pathy? Man I would have never found those by searching! Thanks! Yep. I ordered those and my AC springs from 4x4 parts.com. I'm actually surprised that the shock price wasn't out of line with what's on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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