Precise1 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Oh boy... we might as well burn down the forum now, while we're ahead. Nice!! Its hard to blame Nissan for something that is put on roads and is known to eat steel. Im near the ocean, but I dont drive in it. *snort* I swim in it, but I shower afterwards... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The best truck is an R50 with the VG33E. It is reliable, powerful, efficient, and has the ability to be modded well enough to take on off-road terrain. They look like crap stock but when you put decent meats on them and taller coils they look amazing. The whole frame-less thing is a bunch of garbage because the R50 does have an internal frame underneath that uni-body. The R50 is at least twice as tough as a WD21 in stock form! They also come with OBD II computers, which probably can be re-programmed to do what you want. Put VG30E cams in that VG33E motor and you are flying! VG powered R50 all the way and this is coming from a WD21 owner. The only reason I still like my WD21 is the lack of bull@!*% safety devices like airbags and the minimal emissions control system. Eventually I may go with a VG powered R50 though after WD21's get too old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passengerpete Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 i prefer the full chassis of the wd21 and the shape is to my liken more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theexbrit Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Either one because they're not a Toyota or a Heep (Jeep)..... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwblue Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 The R50 is at least twice as tough as a WD21 in stock form! % safety devices like airbags and the minimal emissions control system. Eventually I may go with a VG powered R50 though after WD21's get too old. I am curious how everyone feels about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I am curious how everyone feels about this? It's Tungsten, besides looking for rule violations nobody bothers reading his posts anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORCGuide Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 WD21 is superior for the following reasons: 1. Shocks and springs => not struts. I learned to despise McPherson struts about a quarter century ago. 2. Full frame => unibody is for cars, not trucks. . . 3. No ABS 4. No Traction control 5. No Airbags The last three are personal preference. I don't like bandaid solutions for problems that don't exist Oh, and 6. No daytime running lights. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor636 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Wd21's have rear ABS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathybuilder Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 and running lights depend on the year. Mine had running lights when I bought it, but since then the running light module failed (that's what nissan told me). I didn't bother spending money replacing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I am curious how everyone feels about this? Probably differently. The R50 has the advantage of a stronger motor and a more robust steering system, thats about it. The unibody makes it better on the road than the WD21, although they are still offroad capable. The R50 feels more like a solid vehicle due to it's construction rather than the solid frame with chassis sitting on it feel of the WD21. FYI, the WD21 has the minimal emissions control system of the two by far. I'm in a good position to compare since I own both. That said, I prefer my WD21 but in the future will probably build a 2004 pathy. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westslope Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have never off-roaded in an R50 but judging from the size, the WD-21 will work much better on overgrown skidder trails. If all your offroading is confined to semi-arid areas with sparse forest cover, then the size factor may not matter that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPath Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 What about the R51? For those saying WD21>R50 simply because of body on frame, does this make the R51>R50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF600 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 WD, why, because that is what I have. I have not rode in a newer one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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