Tungsten Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) Before anyone starts complaining, YES I used the search before posting. I am looking for a new set of shocks. I found these Bilsteins (clicky) on 4x4 parts with the help of a member here but I have a few questions about them: 1. Are the images posted correspond to the actual product? 2. If 1 is true then why is there a boot on them? Boots aren't very good for SUV application because crap can get trapped inside them. 3. Is that a good price for them? Looks like it is to me. 4. Do they actually fit? I know it says they do but would like to verify that. 5. What is the difference between the Sports and the Non-sports shock? I would like a smoother ride, not hard as a rock. Before anyone posts anything, NO RANCHO SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!! Rancho shocks are "Twin-tube" and I am only willing to get "Mono-tube" shocks because of their superior construction and longevity. What about KYB Gas-A-Justs? That is what the dealers put on R50s. Edited September 14, 2010 by Tungsten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I bought a couple Rancho RS5000's new and they came with boots. so I would figure since there are boots in the photos, that boots come with them. They are optional though and only held on by zipties, at least that's how it was on my Ranchos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Get ranchos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Before anyone starts complaining, YES I used the search before posting. I am looking for a new set of shocks. I found these Bilsteins (clicky) on 4x4 parts with the help of a member here but I have a few questions about them: 1. Are the images posted correspond to the actual product? 2. If 1 is true then why is there a boot on them? Boots aren't very good for SUV application because crap can get trapped inside them. 3. Is that a good price for them? Looks like it is to me. 4. Do they actually fit? I know it says they do but would like to verify that. 5. What is the difference between the Sports and the Non-sports shock? I would like a smoother ride, not hard as a rock. Before anyone posts anything, NO RANCHO SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!! Rancho shocks are "Twin-tube" and I am only willing to get "Mono-tube" shocks because of their superior construction and longevity. better do some searching before you say i want bilstiens and no rancho suggestions.. because if you want a smooth ride.. don't go for the bilstiens. i just went through this discussion with some fab buddies of mine. "Pogo stick" was the word used for the bilstiens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 What would you recommend? I am in the market for new shocks as well. I know bilsteins are a good shock but stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) What would you recommend? I am in the market for new shocks as well. I know bilsteins are a good shock but stiff. I have been doing alot of research and asking alot of people (i have LOTS of friends in the vehicle / fab business) the general concensus is Rancho 9000xl's. You can tune them to your ride by the turn of a knob. they are the same price as bilstien 5100's I for one am going to run teh Rancho 9000's Edited September 14, 2010 by 87pathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 What about the KYB Gas-A-Justs? I know that is what the dealer installs on R50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Ok well I went along with the Gas-A-Justs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I just ordered a set of MonoMaxes. I always liked they way they made the rig ride, a few buddies with SUVS have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 MonoMax might be a little stiff for my tastes but I definitely like how the Gas-A-Justs make R50s ride so I'm going to try them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 For the record I love my rancho 9x's I set em soft for the city since I have to drive over a washboard @ the gate everyday and about 7 in the rear for long trips. when I get to I-20 in cali I set them to 9 in the rear and they feel great on the turns. and what makes you say mono tube shocks are better? If you dent a mono tube it will not have superior longevity. If you dent a racho you haven't done anything but add character to the outer shell (unless you whack it really good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I whacked a rancho good but there is still no binding in the whole travel of the shock. I just need to get a new eyelet bushing for it (that's just how hard I whacked it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) From: http://www.autoanything.com/suspension-systems/50A26A163A4.aspx Twin-Tube Shocks: The twin-tube shock can trace its lineage back to the mid 20th century, and its ingenious design still stands the test of time. As its name implies, twin-tube shocks have 2 chambers: an inner and an outer tube. The inner tube is where most of the work takes place. Here, the piston plows up and down through the main supply of oil. The outer chamber holds an extra supply of oil and a low pressure gas charge at around 100–150 psi. The gas, usually nitrogen, provides the backstop against the flow of oil for mega dampening. However, as the oil heats up, it can mix with the gas and cause foam and fade. Twin-tube shocks deliver comfortable, stable all-around dampening for cars, trucks and SUVs. In fact, twin-tubes are probably the most commonly used shocks in the automotive market today. Ideal for street driving, they feel smooth yet still reduce body roll and sway during cornering and dipping during hard stops and spirited acceleration. However, rugged off-roading can cause the twin-tubes to overheat, which leads to foam and fade in extreme conditions. Monotube Shocks: One may be the loneliest number, but monotube shocks have no problem leading a solitary life. Rather than using two chambers, these burly shock absorbers do it all in a single tube. What's more, they have twice the piston power as a twin-tube shock. The first piston is located right where you would expect it–at the end of the piston rod. This first piston pushes against a section of oil, which is forced downward into the second piston. This floating piston is sandwiched between a section of viscose oil and a pocket of highly charged gas (between 200–360 psi). By separating the oil from the gas, monotube shocks greatly reduce the risk of oil foaming and fade. The dual piston design of monotube shocks provides stiffer dampening, which is preferred for sportier handling and grueling off-road conditions. Monotube shocks are also air cooled, so they do not retain heat the way twin-tubes do. Plus, they can be mounted upside down for extra weight support. However, monotube shocks are difficult to mount in place of stock twin-tube shocks on cars and stock-height trucks and SUVs because of the added length and range. Also, monotube shocks are slightly more vulnerable to dent damage because there is no outer buffer. The way the shocks are placed in Pathfinders, make them almost invulnerable to any damage. I don't remember the last time I hit my shocks. Edited September 15, 2010 by Tungsten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 thats a bunch of BS.. lost me at, they can be mounted upside down for extra weight support. how does mounting upside down let it handle more weight? a piston is a piston.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 From: http://www.autoanyth...0A26A163A4.aspx The way the shocks are placed in Pathfinders, make them almost invulnerable to any damage. I don't remember the last time I hit my shocks. go play in come cobble stone pits and your entire under carriage will see dents. lol asside from the single wall "air cooling" bit twin tubes can be constucted in the same way. There's nothing anywere that says twin tube shocks need to be single piston they can be doulbe or even tripple just like any other shock out there. but I guess you got your mind set so go buy whatever you were going to b4 you asked us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 It doesn't matter, it's still a twin-tube. The only better shock construction is a shock with either one or multiple remote reservoirs. http://www.autoanything.com/suspension-systems/61A2624A0A0.aspx These look good but I don't know if they are for Nissans. Thanks for the heads up on Bilsteins though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 backing up to turn around on the trail, I hit my exhaust on a low stump which broke the hangers and shoved it into one of my shocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneZ Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I have hit my rear shocks on rocks, branches, and other trail dab-re Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 Yeah but have you ever overheated a twin-tube shock? It's not a pleasant ride then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 unless your racing or are into desert running type. I doubt you will ever overheat a normal shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 unless your racing or are into desert running type. I doubt you will ever overheat a normal shock. x2 and @ that point you'll need a better suspension anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) Actually the Rancho 9000 XL shocks are "premium twin-tube" shocks with "monoflow". They are very advanced but for the price I thought the Gas-A-Justs were a better deal. I would definitely try the 9000 XLs out if I can get that wireless controller for them. I'm just too lazy to go adjust them all the time. Edited September 15, 2010 by Tungsten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Actually the Rancho 9000 XL shocks are monotube style shocks. They are very advanced but for the price I thought the Gas-A-Justs were a better deal. I would definitely try the 9000 XLs out if I can get that wireless controller for them. I'm just too lazy to go adjust them all the time. these are what i'm buying.. RS99036.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY1PATH Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Actually the Rancho 9000 XL shocks are "premium twin-tube" shocks with "monoflow". They are very advanced but for the price I thought the Gas-A-Justs were a better deal. I would definitely try the 9000 XLs out if I can get that wireless controller for them. I'm just too lazy to go adjust them all the time. I will eventually be buying the compressor based controller for mine. Only $150 and no remote to loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87pathy Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I will eventually be buying the compressor based controller for mine. Only $150 and no remote to loose. what do you mean by compressor based? the my ride system uses a compressor too. curious.... as i have a compressor on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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