hazco21 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hey, I'm just wondering which lift everyone would recommend for my 2000 pathy, the Oldman Emu one or the AC lifts one with Bilstien shocks and struts? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) all the opinions here gonna be biased cause everybody has run one or the other, but nobody has run both but going off what ive read, i prefer the OME which has been tried and tested in the outback of australia AC 2" lift springs have no evidence of R&D but that guy xplorx4 did moab with the 2" lift so it cant be bad Edited June 22, 2009 by FUELER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 The OME coils are better in terms of quality and durability; the AC coils will more than suffice, though. As for struts, I'd say OME or KYB. Rear shocks, Bilstein is my top choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUELER Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 which lift are you running tekaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 which lift are you running tekaz OME HD 1.75" coils, KYB GR-2 struts w/ OEM hardware, Bilstein 5150s with no sway bar in the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxman0324 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I do love my AC setup, KYB's up front and Rancho RS9000XL in the rear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPathyGo Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 "Which lift" is a bit like the "which beer" question. Everyone has an opinion and an experience but ultimately it comes down to what you'd like out of a lift. OME makes nice products but the OME lift doesn't give you quite as much lift as the AC lift. Some would say the 0.5"-1" difference is negligible. Others would say it makes all the difference in the world. The KYBs are an excellent strut. Bilsteins are great, but if you want adjustable shocks, Rancho seems to be the way to go given the sheer number of people who have them. Guess it'd help to understand your goals/budget/priorities etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fukinitupagain Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 AC 2" lift springs have no evidence of R&D but that guy xplorx4 did moab with the 2" lift so it cant be bad I've tried to beat-the-hell out of my AC coils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dududuckling Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 OME HD 1.75" coils, KYB GR-2 struts w/ OEM hardware, Bilstein 5150s with no sway bar in the rear. tekaz, i'm just wondering... does it really give you the 1.75"? I think OME website says the coil only provides .5" lift. and i figured that ud be the best person to ask since you have it installed on the pathy. thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 tekaz, i'm just wondering... does it really give you the 1.75"? I think OME website says the coil only provides .5" lift. and i figured that ud be the best person to ask since you have it installed on the pathy. thanks, All I know is they're the OME HD coils installed and they offer way more lift than .5" based on how it sits. In the front, I'd say it has settled between ~1.25-1.5"; the rear ~1.5"-1.75" (but I don't think the rear has necessarily 'settled' as there's hardly any weight there). As far as I know, OME offers a range of coils in various sizes and types. 0.5" is the least, 1.75" is the most. Check with Fueler, too. There are also a couple other members here who have them installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dududuckling Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 All I know is they're the OME HD coils installed and they offer way more lift than .5" based on how it sits. In the front, I'd say it has settled between ~1.25-1.5"; the rear ~1.5"-1.75" (but I don't think the rear has necessarily 'settled' as there's hardly any weight there). As far as I know, OME offers a range of coils in various sizes and types. 0.5" is the least, 1.75" is the most. Check with Fueler, too. There are also a couple other members here who have them installed. Okay... that sounds good to me. I guess when the springs are settled, the difference in the lift provided by AC and OME HD lift are probably negligible. Thanks man, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekazgtr1984 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Okay... that sounds good to me. I guess when the springs are settled, the difference in the lift provided by AC and OME HD lift are probably negligible. Thanks man, No problem. That's what my take on this whole AC/OME debate is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazco21 Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Great, thanks for the info everyone now i just have to get on buying one of the two lol.. also one other question... has anyone rebuilt the 5 speed tranny in one of these? mine out of nowhere is kicking out of gear in 1st and when I drained the tranny fluid I found teeth...... which i believe belong to the synchros or else 1st gear:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new4x4r Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I've got the AC coils, KYB struts, Rancho 9000XL and NX4Industries 1" spacer... It was all pretty decently priced and my pathy rides more like a truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sthrnfat Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) Has anyone used a double stack of the rocky road front coil spacers with the OME coils? Can somebody post a side pic of their rig with OME coils with a single spacer or with a double stack? Did they measure closer to 5/16 thick? Edited June 26, 2009 by sthrnfat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new4x4r Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Buy this guys Spacer kit.. Very good quality Aluminum with bigger hardware http://www.nx4industries.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sthrnfat Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Those spacers look good but the rocky road versions are a good bit cheaper. Want to get close to level with the OME coils but keep the cv angles on the safe side. I know...manual hubs. Anyone using the rocky road trim packer spacers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexrex20 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 if you want to keep the CV angles safe, don't get strut spacers. at full droop the control arm will be hyperextended in relation to factory spec. at that point you're approaching the workable limit of the CV angle, and you definitely don't want to be cranked on the steering wheel and heavy on the skinny pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dududuckling Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 if you want to keep the CV angles safe, don't get strut spacers. at full droop the control arm will be hyperextended in relation to factory spec. at that point you're approaching the workable limit of the CV angle, and you definitely don't want to be cranked on the steering wheel and heavy on the skinny pedal. hey alex, did you install lift on the r50 or are you still running stock coils? and what tire size r u running? im just wondering coz ur r50 seems to be doing lotsa cool stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dududuckling Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 sorry for the topic hijack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fukinitupagain Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Those spacers look good but the rocky road versions are a good bit cheaper. Rocky Road might be cheaper but trust me dude, in life you get what you pay for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Rim Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 if you want to keep the CV angles safe, don't get strut spacers. at full droop the control arm will be hyperextended in relation to factory spec. at that point you're approaching the workable limit of the CV angle, and you definitely don't want to be cranked on the steering wheel and heavy on the skinny pedal. 2.5 years running with 1" spacers, OME HD's, the same CV axles that came with the truck, and now at 311 Km's... Maybe I'm cautious in skider trails and mud, or maybe it's just not as bad as people have made it out to be. I blew a CV in my 01 only because a big tree branch ripped the boot and by the time we drove back into town the boot had been mixed with mud and sand in the grease... But to each their own due diligence, which your also helping to provide. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fukinitupagain Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I've not destoryed a CV since I've had my lift. All 3 were before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexrex20 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 hey alex, did you install lift on the r50 or are you still running stock coils? and what tire size r u running? im just wondering coz ur r50 seems to be doing lotsa cool stuff too. i'm still on stock coils with KYB GR2 struts and Bilstein 7100 rear shocks. tires are 265/70/16 which is a 31in diameter. 2.5 years running with 1" spacers, OME HD's, the same CV axles that came with the truck, and now at 311 Km's... Maybe I'm cautious in skider trails and mud, or maybe it's just not as bad as people have made it out to be. I blew a CV in my 01 only because a big tree branch ripped the boot and by the time we drove back into town the boot had been mixed with mud and sand in the grease... But to each their own due diligence, which your also helping to provide. Cheers. yes, to each their own. from what i've seen of CV trail breaks, it's because the driver had the steering wheel cranked and they were WOT. a loaded tire with that much angle with that much power going to it... something is going to give. i'm not trying to scare people away from strut spacers, just educate them that the suspension will be hyperextended at full droop. if you think about it, the tire will probably in the air if it's at full droop, so you shouldn't have an issue with CV breaks. the opposite CV angle is another story, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazco21 Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 sorry for the topic hijack... haha no worries, good info to hear anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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