94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 obviously you don't care so don't fakely whine about the deaths. supporting this aggression splashes the bood on your hands too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycxice13 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 obviously you don't care so don't fakely whine about the deaths. supporting this aggression spalshes the bood on your hands too. I have a family member in the Army. Don't point fingers and call names, enough. THis thread was not created so you could get on your soapbox and grandstand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 if the topic author wants it shut it down he can get that done. otherwise it's fair game. yeah, you didn't like my american terror comment did you?.. the thing is that is how many peeps are seeing US as.. i am not making this stuff up. i wish i was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vengeful Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 THis thread was not created so you could get on your soapbox and grandstand. Maybe not, but it is his right as a Human to do so. His posts have been on-topic and related to the issue at hand. Just because you don't like his views, doesn't mean you can attack him or try to prevent him from expressing them. That is what opressive dictators do. Hitler ring any bells? How about Lenin? Maybe Stalin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycxice13 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Havent attacked him or his views, just stated that if he was soo enthusiastic of his oppinions that he go to a forum or rally where it might actually mean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 i try what i can in my world. NPORA is part of my world and it seems that my opinion is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordsho90 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 actually this thread was created to bring awareness to the fact that 2,500 US men and woman have been killed......no matter what side of the fence you stand on....I knew it would go the way it has and I am glad cause enough is it enough and people need to know the facts not the B.S that has been going on since the getgo so keep it clean and cival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdhicks99 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Wow! so lets just piss on the graves of fallen Americans? MZ have you talked to anyone who has been there? I have I live in TN,USA the volunteer state and by god those kids are proud to do it! I really don't mind you grandstanding (I'm used to that out of left-wing extermists) but have some common curtousy and start another thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycxice13 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 LETS NOT GO THIS WAY PEOPLE. Seen too many threads go down this path. Lets stop please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Wow! so lets just piss on the graves of fallen Americans? not pissing but i don't want all of you to keep believing the bull. when wars are started based upon lies it's not patriotic to keep supporting them. that's all. the soldiers may be proud.. proud of what i don't know.. there is no pride in aggression and death.. sorry, not buying it.. MZ have you talked to anyone who has been there? better, i used to live there. attacking iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 or terrorism except for US to spread it around the globe.. saddam was a bad cookie for sure, but he kept terrorist under his thumb. he was no threat to US or Israel.. Israel was saying so too before we went there and blew it all up.. Now we are basically ignoring iran and NK. who are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 seems you missed this link before so here it is again: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls...%22&btnG=Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycxice13 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 not pissing but i don't want all of you to keep believing the bull. when wars are started based upon lies it's not patriotic to keep supporting them. that's all. the soldiers may be proud.. proud of what i don't know.. there is no pride in aggression and death.. sorry, not buying it.. better, i used to live there. attacking iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 or terrorism except for US to spread it around the globe.. saddam was a bad cookie for sure, but he kept terrorist under his thumb. he was no threat to US or Israel.. Israel was saying so too before we went ther and blew it all up.. Now we are basically ignoring iran and NK, who are they.. Ok, but your views won't change someones beliefs. I plan on joining the National Guard, if I get sent over there, well thats what I was trained for was it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 you were trained to defend this country not invade another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdhicks99 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 So Saddam does not need to be punished for the slaughtering of innocent people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycxice13 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 you were trained to defend this country not invade another. Trained to fight, and protect this countries interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdhicks99 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 seems you missed this link before so here it is again: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls...%22&btnG=Search I personally don't care what the world perception of us is. I commented on our troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 So Saddam does not need to be punished for the slaughtering of innocent people? and who made us the punisher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navygz19 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Yeah...this is going to turn into what nobody wants it to. I am no longer on active duty (just an inactive reservist now) and I have 3 friends out there playing in the sand dunes!! And every day I thank GOD for people like them! Please don't turn this into a political he said she said bash the @!*% out of our president thread! Start another one for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) Trained to fight, and protect this countries interests. when the interests are evil, i can't see myself supporting them. if you want oil you buy it or drill for it, you don't try to steal it.. unless you make it a habit to drive off from filling stations. Edited June 15, 2006 by mzxtreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I personally don't care what the world perception of us is.I commented on our troops. unfortuantely so is that poll. if you don't care what others think how can we expect to have any allies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I have 3 friends out there playing in the sand dunes!! And every day I thank GOD for people like them! why? their stay there makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navygz19 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) Because that's their job. Marines and Soldiers are some of the most partiotic people in the world. Have you ever been in the military, MZ? Better yet, seen combat? I haven't (sailor's don't do a damn thing but get drunk and annoy local women) BUT what I DO know is that people like you who can sit there and criticize what they do in another county are of no concern to them. Nor are you of any concern to me. I signed that paper and swore to defend freedom and democracy around the world. Obviously, you did not. And it's a good thing you didn't. I have plenty of Marine friends. And they ADORE what they do. They wouldn't have it any other way. I would love to see you say to one who was on his second voluntary tour that they had no right to be there. They are there because they have to be, because they are ordered to and because they are disciplined and honorable men and women. And mostly, because they want to be. Don't like what they do? That's fine. But you will never, ever be able to tell me or any other Veteran the things you do and expect us to agree to it, nor do I expect you to agree with me. That's what makes America so beautiful, isn't it? You are free to rip apart, criticize, quote me and write a sentance, quote me again and write another sentance and pick my reply apart as I'm sure you will. And I am also sure you will post links to this and that and to what this politician/magazine/newspaper said and what that one said, but I don't care. You will not change my mind, ever. Nor will you phase me. Ever. Your views are like the whispers I hear when I'm listening to a really good song and pay no attention to. We will never see eye to eye Just my .02 Edited June 15, 2006 by navygz19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navygz19 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 if you want oil you buy it or drill for it, you don't try to steal it.. unless negative. you run your car off of cooking oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navygz19 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 if there are servicemen/women on here. thank you Thank you Max, seriously. Once in awhile, though it's not necessary as our Military is 150 quintillion percent volountary enlisting, thank you no less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_stryker Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 oh no probem. i realize that the military allows me to sit here all day on the computer so Im not complaining. by the way this thread got really off when a couple of you started having a piss contest. i dont appreciate it. and i wasnt going to say anything but really. just appreciate what you have. thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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