MATTY Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 hi guys my question is how effective is it at producing more power/better fuel econ im thinking it should be good but i'd like some answers first my pathy is a 1998 3.3lv6 stock with a pod filter thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) The fan is a great idea. I got 19 MPG with a truck full of cargo and 3 people crusing at 75 MPH heading on vacation. The only thing that I did other than that is the DIY CAI, flowmaster exhaust, and I had ACETONE in the tank which has only proven about .75 MPG difference. The truck must have gained 10+ HP, the rule of thumb is if you can feel it, it is over 10. How much HP I actually gained is tough to tell, but you will definately enjoy the truck more with the e-fan!! Best e-fan site Edited January 15, 2006 by 98silverpathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hey, do you have pics of the Taurus fan installed in your Pathy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATTY Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 thanks 98 silver pathy i'm going to try one now thanks for those figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) I don't have any but since you asked, I will get some tomorrow!! I Dig the new avatar XPLORx4!! Edited January 16, 2006 by 98silverpathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 On my '87, I believe I am seeing 1-2 mpg improvement on long trips. It's hard to put an exact figure on it, but here's the stats on (3) 1000 mile road trips from NoCal to Portland OR and back: 1) June: 17 mpg. Mechanical fan, had A/C running at least 75% of the time and it was hot. 2) October: 21 mpg. Electric fan, but A/C was on for maybe 100 miles. 3) December: 19.5 mpg. Electric fan, NO A/C, stiff head wind for several hundred miles. Even factoring in the rule of thumb that A/C will cost about 1 mpg, and tossing out another 1 mpg for colder, denser air on trips 2 and 3, I think at least 1 mpg is very realistically attributed to the fan. I am using a fan out of a mid '90's BMW 528 as I had one laying around. It's a 3 speed. And the engine does pick up revs much quicker without the mechanical fan load. It feels like what a 5 hp increase would. Although it is mostly inertial effects and probably more like a 1 or 2 hp increase, it is a noticeable kick in the peppy pants. How much did I like it? I purchased 2 taurus fans (the 2 speed version off the 3.8l car) to do the same in my tow van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissandoms47 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 wont this fan short out or something if you go into deep water? i tend to do that a lot -Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 No it won't. And as a bonus you get to turn off the sucker so spinning blades won't bend in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 You can put a toggle switch on the power and turn the fan off, but DON'T forget to turn it back on after you cross water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) OK, many pics.....would somone please tell me how to post multi pics in one reply???!!! this is the space between fan and pulleys Edited January 18, 2006 by 98silverpathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 toggle for high speed...I used the low speed with the thermostat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Thermostat and location under-hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 driver-side of the fans shroud (coverage area pic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 drivers-side again looking down at steering knuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 passenger side mount again showing coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 diode(s) for high speed, low speed, and ac relay's.....I agree with the like out there that this is important!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 and last but not least 2 last pics of overall cover of the Ford Taurus 3.8L HO electric fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (pics were posted between commercials of Boston Legal, so if I left anything out please just post up!) Chris (98) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 You can use your own host or any of the free picture webhosting services that are around. Try http://imageshack.us http://photobucket.com http://supload.com I am surprised that with so many FREE resources available this board still allows attachments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) '98: Nice job on the install! Have you taken any measurements, or seen any published figures, on how much current the Taurus fan pulls at low and at high speed? I am designing my wiring schematic. I am confident standard 30 amp relays will be plenty for low speed, but how about high speed? Did you confirm that article that said 40 amp is enough? Or should I go with doubled up 30 amp? Edited January 18, 2006 by mws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Interesting. The fan must pull a lot of CFM if it still cools the engine despite covering only 60% of the radiator. How long have you had it installed, and what's the hottest outside temperature you've driven in since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Luker Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Also if it's an autotragic transmission, do you have an external tranny cooler installed? You may have issues with transmission cooling if the fan is not pulling air through those parts of the rad where the stock cooler is located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02silverpathy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) I do have a plate style tranny cooler, and the hottest it got was 98 with nasty humidity for what that is worth!! I am using double 30 amp relays and that is on the high setting...no melt downs yet....it does kick my headlights when it turns on even on low...but I am working on Vengefuls idea right now....the quest alty that is 125 amps...this should be done this week. I have the alty and took the pulley of after it tested out mint from 2 diff auto places!! I'll keep you guys posted on that one! edit: I do change the settings from winter numbers to Summer numbers...I had the fan since like July of last year. The adj thermo is direct wired so it does run when the truck is off and I had no problems over the summer starting the truck, but for common sense reasons I bumped the fan thermo up a little since batteries are less apt to charging when they are cold!! I do have a deep cycle DEKA so that may be one reason starting was all good! Edited January 18, 2006 by 98silverpathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj big shoe Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 (edited) Interesting. The fan must pull a lot of CFM if it still cools the engine despite covering only 60% of the radiator. How long have you had it installed, and what's the hottest outside temperature you've driven in since then? Judging from your sig pic I can see the cause for concern, but there's guys on nissan4wheelers.com in AZ and the fan works well in that environment too. The Taurus fan has always kept my '87 V6 cool. I recently moved to Florida and it did fine all summer and I have it wired for slow speed. I also did the Quest alt swap before the fan. I couldn't notice any mileage or HP gains, but at least it doesn't sound like a bus when the fan kicks on anymore. Some folks have swapped in other types of electric fans (I think 88's is from a Quest) so the Taurus isn't the only one you can use. I chose it because of the buzz from the hot rod and off road buggy community about how much air it can move. Be careful, though. It's said to draw a LOT of amps at start up, so be sure to build a system that can handle it. I've got mine wired to some huge relay the guy at the parts store said goes on a tow truck winch. Edited January 19, 2006 by jj big shoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLORx4 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 (edited) I'm astonished that an e-fan that doesn't cover the radiator can cool the truck in high temperatures at low speeds and high engine loads. The reason why I'm asking is because I've experimented so far with 2 different electric fans, and I'm still not 100% confident in an e-fan's ability to adequately cool my truck. The first was a Flex-a-Lite #210 low-profile fan (2500cfm). It left about 20% of the radiator surface unshrouded. On a 4-wheeling trip in the mountains a couple of summers ago, the truck overheated big-time. It was only about 78°F outside, but apparently 5mph in 4LO up a 20-degree slope for 5 minutes required more cooling than the fan could deliver. So, I last summer, I installed a Flex-a-Lite #295 fan (up to 4600cfm) which covers nearly the entire radiator. However, the engine ran hot a few times (over 230°F) while ascending into the mountains on a 95°F day. Above 4000' altitude, at times it was necessary to keep the pedal nearly mashed, shift into 2nd gear and maintain revs at 5000+ just to drive 50mph as we ascended towards the summit. Later, I spoke with a rep at Flex-a-Lite regarding this and his response was that the bull-bar and winch installed on my truck created a vacuum in front of the radiator, preventing adequate airflow to the radiator, ergo overheating. With the engine-driven fan installed, the truck never ran hot, even in 125°F temps with the AC running full-blast. However, above 95°F, the AC usually blew warm at idle. (That's partially why I installed the e-fan.) Edited January 19, 2006 by XPLORx4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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