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I've been researching what shocks to get for my 4" lifted QX4 and I've settled on the 5165 but I'm not sure what bushings i need to fit into it. I read in some posts that it is a necessary step. And its understandable of course since the bushings are unsupported sizes for the r50. Is there a part number anyone could provide me for 5/8 bushings that fit the 5165 25-261400's? I saw that Jax99 ran that model. Also are there any inconveniences or tradeoffs anyone experiences from running the 5165s with the external reservoir? Things like whether or not the tube rubs the tire. My front end is spacer lifted 2.5" and my rear has LR 9448/9449 coils providing 4" of lift.

I had looked at the 5165 25-187748 because it has a 17.93" compressed length which is very close to some 5125's (33-185569) I've seen some people running that have a 17.91" compressed length (with 11.8" travel). However the 25-187748 5165 has 17.93" compressed length AND 13.1" of travel. Which is quite an upgrade. Not to mention both of these shocks use 5/8 bushings for both top and bottom. Is there something I'm missing on why people aren't using the 25-187748 5165's? I saw one or two posts about people using the 25-261400's. Those come stock with 12mm eyes. To me at least it doesn't quite add up on why people would buy shocks that have incorrectly sized bushings that they have to switch, over just getting a model that has 5/8 eyes to start that, (to my knowledge) work on the r50 out of the box. But there may be something I'm not aware of. The way I see it, the 33-185569's seem objectively better due to the higher travel. And the fact that it has the same mounting length as other shocks I've seen r50 owners run means i know that the length is supported. And the 5/8 fitting seems perfect as I wouldn't have to switch the eye out.

This is the parts+size chart I used - https://www.shockwarehouse.com/pages/bilstein-b8-series-measurements

Sorry if this is a big information dump and a lot to ask but any info helps. I appreciate anything. Thanks in advance

   
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9 hours ago, Xander386 said:

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You will gain nothing from running the 5165 model. Your tire will most likely rub because of the rear axle articulation. The 5100 are robust enough to handle any type of driving you will do with your r50. Stick with the 5100 model and save yourself a bit of money for other mods.  

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1 hour ago, yourmomsbull said:

You will gain nothing from running the 5165 model. Your tire will most likely rub because of the rear axle articulation. The 5100 are robust enough to handle any type of driving you will do with your r50. Stick with the 5100 model and save yourself a bit of money for other mods.  

After reading experiences from other users I'm pretty sure tire rubbing only exists when the wheel is fully tucked on a given side, which can easily be prevented by using bump stops. And currently I'm fully willing and committed to using the 5165's over the 5100's. I've read enough user testimony to feel confident in that decision. I know it costs over 2x and I'm willing to pocket that. However I'm just confused on which parts will work and why some won't. That's all I was asking in my original post.

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9 minutes ago, Xander386 said:

After reading experiences from other users I'm pretty sure tire rubbing only exists when the wheel is fully tucked on a given side, which can easily be prevented by using bump stops. And currently I'm fully willing and committed to using the 5165's over the 5100's. I've read enough user testimony to feel confident in that decision. I know it costs over 2x and I'm willing to pocket that. However I'm just confused on which parts will work and why some won't. That's all I was asking in my original post.

Bump stops will not prevent tire rub, unless you go with some very rigid aftermarket units. You should buy the shocks that you are unsure about and let us know if they work. That will greatly help anyone looking for this specific answer in the future.

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1 hour ago, XPLORx4 said:

Where do you plan to mount the 5165 reservoirs?

Probably how the user @Jax99did on his - directly to the main shaft of the shock. The below images are not mine but Jax99's, from this  post.f72b1999fdb19256b7ba87159650ab31.jpg947aa9428da97bd51fc42c3c68e93e2d.jpg312a5e45f6a18becba3d4ab8dfe554e2.jpg

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On 3/5/2023 at 1:41 PM, yourmomsbull said:

Bump stops will not prevent tire rub, unless you go with some very rigid aftermarket units. You should buy the shocks that you are unsure about and let us know if they work. That will greatly help anyone looking for this specific answer in the future.

So i bought the Bilstein 5165 25-187748's and had them installed. And they are such an upgrade over my previous shocks.

I also just installed a 2.5" lift on the front via spacers from SFCreation. So i currently have a 4" lift in the rear and a 2.5" lift in the front. A slight rake but when I'm pulling my trailer it levels it out.

I have a larger roof rack on the way (64Lx39Wx6H). And i actually found a swing out tire carrier in a junk yard on a 1996 pathfinder so that will be installed soon as well.

EDIT: There is no tire rub with the way that i installed the reservoirs. At least that i know of, or have experienced so far.

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