KILLVOX Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 It cost 105.00. Any thoughts on if its worth it or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Ill tell you about it when I put it on. Should be later today or in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Pickles Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Or.... just do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 He asked if it was worth it or not, not how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 He asked if it was worth it or not, not how Well besides the way he showed, you can also get a MAF cone adapter from an Altima and drill out the holes larger and go that route. Both methods will cost about half as much as the AC kit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILLVOX Posted May 1, 2005 Author Share Posted May 1, 2005 hey Duffman. How is that air intake going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derogate Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 i personally dont think it would be worth 100 bucks. I'm new to pathy's in general, but for what it is you could spend 30 bucks and do the same thing yourself. Anyone had any problems with water and dirt getting on the filter? I would think it would be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 IM STILL WAITING ON IT. lol, AC takes forever to order from, my Calmini stuff is here, and the body lift and headers are here, but no intake. The one thing I knew I could do on my own and its not even here. Belive me, youll be the first to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apc Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Dont bother unless you're prepared to construct an isolation box to keep the engine heat out. You can kiss your low end torque goodbye if you stick that junk open in the engine bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Bullcrap, it gets force-fed fresh air when the vehicle's in motion anyway. It doesn't matter on these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Dont bother unless you're prepared to construct an isolation box to keep the engine heat out. You can kiss your low end torque goodbye if you stick that junk open in the engine bay. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth1 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hey GrimGreg, does that Altima adapter have an off-center intake hole, like ours? I thought I got one recently on ebay but the hole is centered in the square part of the adapter and doesn't quite match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apc Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Hahaha try sticking a thermometer in the bay and see just how hot that 'fresh air' is.. If you're not drawing air from outside the engine bay or below the motor you are wasting your time and money. Seems evident every automotive engineer in the industry has recognized this fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Sticking a thermometer in my engine bay at 45 doesent seem like a good idea, You go first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apc Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Hehehehe. A remote thermo will do I had my sensor in the ventilation grille for a short time.. the heat coming up from the hood was enough to register a 5-10degreeF increase over ambient while in motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edta1 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Hahaha try sticking a thermometer in the bay and see just how hot that 'fresh air' is..If you're not drawing air from outside the engine bay or below the motor you are wasting your time and money. Seems evident every automotive engineer in the industry has recognized this fact... hahahaha...Good comment. So much for "cold air intake". Now I understand that this applies to SUVs and other cars not meant for speed, but wouldn't this apply to sports cars (namely ricers) too? I mean, their engine bay gets hot too. So in other words, does this mean that the "cold air intake" kits are crap? Those filters aren't cheap either. I've seen them for $40 at autozone before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apc Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Actually true CAI's typically have the filter assembly housed in the fender or someplace else outside the physical engine bay. The impact of heat is actually greater on ricers. Truck motors typically generate power through raw displacement (3L, 4L, 5L of air etc). Heat only really effects the low-end when the numbers are low to begin with. At 4krpm, a few cubic inches of air doesnt make a whole lot of difference. Remember hot air = less dense = less oxygen = less power. Ricer's on the other hand (typically 4bangers) generate power through efficient and optimal use of the available air. Every little bit counts with these babies, as thin hot gasses sucked into the intake can have a severe impact all the way through the curve. With our pathies the best bet is to use a drop-in style filter replacement using the stock routed tubing (into the fender), or construction of a true cold-air system (have yet to see a commercial version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILLVOX Posted May 6, 2005 Author Share Posted May 6, 2005 So would it be better to put in a snork than an air intake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Makes sense. I remember someone saying that their truck seemed to run better with a snorkel. Certainly no harm, as long as it is not restrictive... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apc Posted May 6, 2005 Share Posted May 6, 2005 Yup. Well made snorkels work just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 I still havent got it yet, mabey you should just make a snorkel. Its time to call AC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apc Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 When you get it go ahead and mount it up so you have a baseline to compare to. Then build a shield. Not too hard just tin or aluminum sheeting riveted into shape, isolating the filter element so it can only draw air through the original hole in the wall. If you've looked at similar style systems for some other vehicles, many have a flap or shield behind the filter that serves the same purpose. It's not as effective as a CAI, but it gets the job done. If you've already spent the cash ($105 is that right? so thats probably $35 for the cone and 70 for the adaptor) might as well make the best of it. If you ever decide you want the real deal, you can easily build your own and reuse that cone filter if it will fit where you want it. Here's a page that outlines using mandrel bent steel tubing available at many big-name hardware stores (Casa De Pot, Lowes). The page is written up for Hondas but the application is the same. http://www.clubcivicquebec.com/site/techni...rmance/012.html Unfortunately the intake is one of the least impacting of many bottlenecks in the VG30, so only so much can be gained by working at this end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 I work at a hardware store, that part is easy, I wouldent go and put the intake lower to the ground though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apc Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 Lower to the ground hmm? If you're referring to that URL the filter looks like it's housed in the fender inside the wrap-around part of the bumper. It is isolated from the road by the wheel well liner. This is the same spot Honda used to (they might still dunno) house all the resonator boxes and assoc. tubing with the stock filter box mounted just inside the engine bay. I agree that in our trucks putting the filter down low wouldnt be a terribly bright idea, but I have seen little ricers who either couldnt or didnt want to put the filter in the fender, so they brought the tubing down to below and beside the motor. Just being away from the heat is all that really matters without taking environment into account. Hell the older Toyota MR2s had the motor at one end and the intake at the other! I have yet to pull off my fender and see just how much room there is to play with, but if I ever become motivated to come up with a practical cold-air solution I'll be sure to post a writeup. In the meantime I strongly encourage that others experiment on their own.. I have yet to see a commercially produced cold-air intake for our trucks, and there is obviously a market demand present.. someone could stand to make a pretty penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILLVOX Posted May 7, 2005 Author Share Posted May 7, 2005 I still think that the intake system along with a shield is beter than a snorkle. Yeh Duffman, Give them slackers a call. you aint gettin any younger and neither is your Pathy. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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