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Can anyone help me figure this out. Backfires usually around 1200 rpms and hard acceleration after the rpms are going down.

 

Is there just one pcv valve?

 

I am probably going to replace fuel filter and nearly everything else to include the spark plugs except the fuel injectors which are over 300 apiece.

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fuel injection.

 

I pulled the codes from the computer and it gave me a fuel injector leak, air flow meter circuit as well as the Cylinder head/water temperature sensor circuit.

 

The injector may be showing a leak because I removed one screw to the injector cover and didn't put any locking sealer on it. Could be an O ring went bad.

 

Has anyone replaced their fuel injectors?

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The injectors aren't all that hard to replace if you have tools and a place to do it, but it's definitely not a side-of-the-street job. I had to make a special punch tool to knock the injectors loose on mine. Other than that, it's disassembly and reassembly.

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A punch tool?

 

I bought ngks spark plugs for the heck of it. Have to wait on this hose now. Anyone replace their AB valve?

 

I really hate waiting for parts. I remember when if you had a foreign auto you had to take it to a specialist perhaps because of the metric system but you also had to wait weeks before they shipped the stuff on the slow boat.

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I had a similar problem wiht mine, it would backfire through the tbi and hesitate often but more so when damp or cold. Nissan told me I needed a $1600.00 throttle body replacement, turns out after some thinking and investigating it was merely the thermostat. I had noticed that the motor wouldnt heat up if it were real cold outside, well guess what, the engine temperature sensor controls the fuel mix. A new thermostat and its amazing the difference, she is still a dog with not much power but at least I can tell that she is giving it all she's got now...

 

Thorleys on the way this summer and cams hopefully by next spring, already got the RS9000's and a magnaflow catback setup.

 

Good luck man...

 

 

Joe

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There's only one PCV valve, and the AB valve just has two hoses going to it, then a single mounting bolt. Very easy to replace. The cylinder head temp sensor, now that's another whole pot of nails....it's right by the thermostat housing, on the block or head, can't quite remember which.

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O2 sensor? Right now I have to replace the pcv hose. That thing was very brittle at the ends and hard as chinese plastic.

not the O2 but the ones that the ECU through out codes for.. 88 just grimaced about one of them just above... new thormostat may be in order also...

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  • 2 weeks later...

My 89 Pathy (V6 5 speed, 4x4) has been backfiring through the intake for a few years now...Only on deceleration, accelleration is totally fine. I have a set of Pacesetter headers K&N filter and a Borla catback on it. Had someone check the timing, Changed the thermostat, AB valve,PCV Valve, vacuum lines, air filter, the little breather filter inside the air cleaner....still doing it. It is actually blowing oil out of the K&N filter all over the inside of the air cleaner housing. It happens right at 1500 RPM consistently. I am totally out of ideas. I have been chasing the problem for about 3 years now, just throwing money at it and I still have no answers...

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Too late already bought the hoses. My problem is same as CTPathy. Right about 15000 as the rpms decelerate and you punch it, the backfire occurs. What or where is the decel valve? I was thinking it might be the AB valve if anything. Haven't checked the codes after the plugs and thermostat install. Seems it's harder to get it to backfire though.

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Ok I havent checked the codes in a while or checked the egr valve operation ( you know, push on the bottom of the valve till the engine stumbles) in about a year and a half. So how do I go about cleaning out the egr passages in the motor? also is the declleration valve the same thing as the ab valve?

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CTPathy: you have to take the TBI off and get into the intake itself...removing the EGR valve itself would give you the opportunity to hose some carb cleaner in there, it may blow out the blockage after it eats into the carbon deposits long enough. Got a Chilton's manual?

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Going to get a manual in the next few days. The only code I have ever gotten was an injector leak. I got it once when I changed the injuctor about 4 years ago and the again about 3 months ago the CEL came on though I never got a chance to check the codes. But both times it went away without my doing anything. If I remember correctly I had tried to take off the EGR valve once before and was unable to do so because the threaded posts that it has to slide off of are too long to get it off. It hits the firewall before it can come off the posts.I am assuming then that I need to remove the whole intake to do this or can I get away with just loosening it enough to slide it away from the back of the intake manifold? Sorry for the long post...

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