trenton163 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Hello I am looking for this bumper I can't find one that will fit a 87-95 pathfinder, does anyone one know where i can find one. 4x4parts.com used to have one but i guess they stopped making it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Thats a brush guard, not a bumper. Proably best watching classifieds here or craigslist for a factory one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Manik and WAAG both made that style, both have discontinued production of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenton163 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Manik and WAAG both made that style, both have discontinued production of them. well that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenton163 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 are these even worth getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 are these even worth getting? I have been trying to figure out how to mount a functional desert runner style grill guard on my rig, and keep the factory front bumper. The store bought grill guards are mainly for looks IMHO. I want to build one out of heavy duty tubing that protects all the way out to the corners, that will actually deflect brush, limbs, and deer without bending. I can also use it to mount some driving lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 that will actually deflect brush, limbs, and deer without bending. I can also use it to mount some driving lights Well, you have mixed purposes here. What will handle brush just fine won't do crap with a deer at 40mph. As a matter of fact, there isn't much available that can handle a deer 55mph, that is actually a serious impact. Search for 'roo bars', the Aussies have it down to an art and you'll see most of them look like locomotive cow catchers or the start of a Mad Max project. That's actually what is required though!! So, with a stock bumper, you can mount a factory or aftermarket grill/light guard that will work just fine for the light duty it was intended for. Anything more serious and you are replacing the stock bumper as it is a tin foil joke to begin with... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 are these even worth getting? That style, I would avoid, they mount low and have material hanging below the mounts (not to mention the low mounted cross bar). That really kills any approach angle, and if you were to catch it, it would pivot up and back. I had one for about 6 months, and ditched it when I started trail running. I have a factory guard now that I bought without lower mounts, but with my 2" body lift it terminates right at the end of the frame rails so I braced it off there, and nothing hangs too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenton163 Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) i mostly like it for the looks, im not a hardcore 4x4er but i do go, i just want something i can mount lights on. what would you guys suggest than? Edited November 25, 2009 by trenton163 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Keep an eye on the classifieds here for a stock brush guard, or part outs. Or, just drill 2 holes in the bumper and mount them there, what I did for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Well, you have mixed purposes here. What will handle brush just fine won't do crap with a deer at 40mph. As a matter of fact, there isn't much available that can handle a deer 55mph, that is actually a serious impact. Search for 'roo bars', the Aussies have it down to an art and you'll see most of them look like locomotive cow catchers or the start of a Mad Max project. That's actually what is required though!! So, with a stock bumper, you can mount a factory or aftermarket grill/light guard that will work just fine for the light duty it was intended for. Anything more serious and you are replacing the stock bumper as it is a tin foil joke to begin with... B It doesn't have to deflect deer at 55 mph, only 25 or so would be nice. Also the big heavy duty bumpers are usually made to mount a winch and are way too freakin heavy. I could do a pre runner style grill guard out of heavy wall tubing that would work fine if I could figure out where to cut some sheet metal so I could brace it off against the frame rails under the hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 It doesn't have to deflect deer at 55 mph, only 25 or so would be nice. Also the big heavy duty bumpers are usually made to mount a winch and are way too freakin heavy. I could do a pre runner style grill guard out of heavy wall tubing that would work fine if I could figure out where to cut some sheet metal so I could brace it off against the frame rails under the hood. Why not just go in through the openings for the stock bumper in the core support and bolt to the stock bumper locations on the frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Exactly. That's why most aftermarket units do the same... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Why not just go in through the openings for the stock bumper in the core support and bolt to the stock bumper locations on the frame? I think for the brush guard to be truly effective there should be some braces near the top that go back to the frame somehow. I think the holes in the factory bumper would still be too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I think they are used in addition to, figuring that it is really the highest solid point to tie into. The problem is that there is no frame 'near the top' and no good way to get to it. Looking at my ARB mounted, I see how the design reduces clearance and approach angle. I think a square tubing style like GG's could be done rock solid, bolting to the frame underneath and at the stock points... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdiggerjcf Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I think they are used in addition to, figuring that it is really the highest solid point to tie into. The problem is that there is no frame 'near the top' and no good way to get to it. Looking at my ARB mounted, I see how the design reduces clearance and approach angle. I think a square tubing style like GG's could be done rock solid, bolting to the frame underneath and at the stock points... B I think you need to tie into the frame under the bumper, the frame through the holes in the bumper, and one more time from the top of the brush guard to the frame rails in the engine compartment. To accomplish this you will have to cut sheet metal. That is why I haven't done it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Once I get around to building the "brush guard" above the bumper on my 88, you'll see there is no need to tie in that high. If you do want to tie in, then run a brace up off a lower mount, triangulation . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungWheelsCT Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 so yeah i just happen to have that grill guard ur looking for and its in pretty good cond. no broken or bent parts i have the bolts and what not to put it on ur pathy message me if you still want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenton163 Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 so yeah i just happen to have that grill guard ur looking for and its in pretty good cond. no broken or bent parts i have the bolts and what not to put it on ur pathy message me if you still want it i am actually, could you upload some pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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