GreaseMonky81 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ok I have used the search function and seen that there is options for center link, ie hooha, calmini, but my question is there anything else that can be done, that is a little cheaper, I am great at building things, or welding up stuff, im just very short on cash right now, and am tired of bending tierods everytime I go out I have even changed centerlinks out, stock for stock. Has anyone considered two wheel drive center links and tierods, there set up different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmer Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I hear ya man. I bend tie rods connstantly and consequently I'm going through my TSL's much quicker than I would like... not cheap. My solution - budjet SAS! Even the mildest SAS is better, by far, than our IFS as long as you don't wheel much harder than you already do and keep your tire size to 35" or less. There are upgraded steering components but ultimately SAS is the way to go. Those that are selling there "upgraded" steering suff are going to SAS. http://skagit.craigslist.org/pts/1377459354.html See for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimGreg Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The 2wd Pathfinder setup is the exact same as the 4wd. 2wd Hardbodys on the other hand are different, but they are also weaker components. You could probably make gussets on them, but you would have to be carefull not to warp the inside of the ball joint socket. Our TREs are pretty stout when not put in a binding situation (like the one a worn CL causes). Not sure just how fabrication inclined you are, but you could make your own version of the "Hoohaa" CL. All it is is a stock CL with the ball joints removed and replaced with bearings, you then run a bolt through the bearing and pitman on the one end, and a bolt through the bearing and idler arm on the other end. Since there is no pivot to the bearing, the CL stays in a level plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaseMonky81 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 The 2wd Pathfinder setup is the exact same as the 4wd. 2wd Hardbodys on the other hand are different, but they are also weaker components. You could probably make gussets on them, but you would have to be carefull not to warp the inside of the ball joint socket. Our TREs are pretty stout when not put in a binding situation (like the one a worn CL causes). Not sure just how fabrication inclined you are, but you could make your own version of the "Hoohaa" CL. All it is is a stock CL with the ball joints removed and replaced with bearings, you then run a bolt through the bearing and pitman on the one end, and a bolt through the bearing and idler arm on the other end. Since there is no pivot to the bearing, the CL stays in a level plane. I could handle making my own version of a hooha, but i am not sure what size bearing, and what size sleeve for the bearing one think I have noticed is when I am in 4 wheel, my front tires flop all over the place, side to side mainly and when it does that my tre, seem to bend last night was both outer's Another kinda of the subject question two pathfinders same year my tre angle, is steeper than his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSlowReliable Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 maybe this? http://npora.ipbhost.com//index.php?showto...20&start=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaseMonky81 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 maybe this? [url=http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=22195&st=20&s Looks like an option but not sure if i like that option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Your TRE's are bending because of the worn CL's. Get a decent CL on that thing, and your TRE worries will end. They'll still wear out faster than on a truck that isn't wheeled, but you won't be bending them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpeace Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 so is the slider plate option that kiwi did a viable option? I kinda like it if it would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yeah, it looks like it would be. The principle seems to be sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpeace Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 seems much cheaper and easier than a modded CL or the calmini setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaseMonky81 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Your TRE's are bending because of the worn CL's. Get a decent CL on that thing, and your TRE worries will end. They'll still wear out faster than on a truck that isn't wheeled, but you won't be bending them anymore. See that sthe problem I did put a decent center link on there and first trip out bent both outers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Maybe by then it was no longer a decent CL??? Maybe too much skinny pedal?? B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 See that sthe problem I did put a decent center link on there and first trip out bent both outers. By decent, I most definitely did NOT mean stock. You need something upgraded. I've killed brand new stock CL's on my first wheeling trip. They simply cannot handle the stresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaseMonky81 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 By decent, I most definitely did NOT mean stock. You need something upgraded. I've killed brand new stock CL's on my first wheeling trip. They simply cannot handle the stresses. Thats what I am wanting to do but I am trying to do it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpeace Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 so would one say the slide plate would suffice in the place of say a modded CL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Try it and tell us... Yes, it should help, no, I don't think it will solve everything. Remember, the CL can still flex downward (to the rear) and rotate some even being bound against the stops. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpeace Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) so does a modded CL solve everything? B i was gonna hit you up to make these for me Edited September 26, 2009 by headpeace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 It does solve these problems, yes. They do wear out....but Grassroots was good with me for getting a warranty replacement. It takes A LOT longer for the modified CL's to wear out than the stockers. I ran probably 30-40 trails on mine before it gave up....2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpeace Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I guess my question is do you think the slide plate would work as well as a Hoohaa CL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 so does a modded CL solve everything? B i was gonna hit you up to make these for me I will if I can. Remember though, I'm a machinist, not a welder... *needs to change that* It does solve these problems, yes. They do wear out....but Grassroots was good with me for getting a warranty replacement. It takes A LOT longer for the modified CL's to wear out than the stockers. I ran probably 30-40 trails on mine before it gave up....2 years. Only 2 years?? How rough were the trails? Do you have an idler arm brace? What were the symptom(s) that told you the modified CL was shot? How long was the warranty, the life time?? I'm just asking to fill in future blanks. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESP357 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I found the movement in my c/l was the ball on the idler arm side moving up and down in it's socket so I shimmed the gap between the centre link and idler arm with a couple of washers to stop it moving up and down in it's socket,seems to have done the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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