3rdtimesacharm Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Got my hands on a Moog DS-2386 (tie rod assembly) and a Moog ES-3002 (single outter rod). Both came in official sealed moog boxes but the assembly is actually a 555 product. From what I gather moog outsource some things to Three 5s (made in Japan) and get them to manufacture to their moogy standards. Comparing the two is vaguely interesting ! The moog has a remarkably smoother movement where as the 555 is definitely rough and almost binding. The moog also uses a nyloc rather than castle nut and is without greasy nips. The 555 has a rubber nubbin on each boot for old grease to come out of as you gun it in. Saying that, they dont actually have nipples but a screw on the underside. Plus they come with castle nuts + pins. With the rough movement I think it'll need greasing pretty often. If anyones curious I could take pics.. they're getting fitted on the truck tomorrow though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor636 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Interesting. I had 3 Moog 555 TRE's and one non 555 (Rock auto strikes again) and I actually had better luck with the 555's. In fact the non 555 boot ripped early in its life, and I could never get a zerk to thread in properly so I just left the little bolt in.<br /><br />And I'd much rather have a castle nut than nyloc. Probably my dads horror stories. Edited September 20, 2013 by Trogdor636 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdtimesacharm Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 .. In fact the non 555 boot ripped early in its life.. Reading that I gave them a fondle and I'd hazzard a guess the 555 boot used a thinner rubber, but without cutting them open I wouldnt stake my life on it. When I do the 2wd steering swap I'll use the nylocs as easy fit spares and get some me castelation. I wonder if moogs heavy duty (problem solver?) tie rods use nylocs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 When I bought a moog drag link it was a 555 same with tie rods. Upon returning some parts for warranty they gave me TRW brand and said it would still be warrantied. I was kinda surprised to see 555 on those as well. Never had a problem with quality. I was off-road a lot at the time so the drag links would wear out yearly lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor636 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I think since Moog is owned by Federal Mogul its a crap shoot what part you end up with. Probably a few different suppliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 greasy nips. I'm here for the greasy nips! I could generally care less about the name on the box (you can get a good look at a steak sticking your head up a bulls azz...) but I MUST have provisions for zerks fittings on them. The love of lube gets me plenty of miles out of my steering components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahardb0dy Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) I've always used Moog products and have never had a problem with them I too like grease nips !!! Edited September 21, 2013 by ahardb0dy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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