Astroc2002 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 When giving advice I like to pull from personal experience and not something that I "heard" on another message board. Having said that, my last Pathfinder had Pacesetter headers, magnaflow cat and a Flowmaster Delta 50 muffler. I had a local exhaust shop build a new cat-back with the flowmaster and it only cost $100 for materials and labor. They even used flanges and utilized the stock exhaust mounting points. After I totalled the truck I was able to pull off everything behind the headers and bolt it up to another Pathfinder like it was stock. The setup sounded great with the headers. I have the Doug Thorleys on a 1987 V6 D21. They are nice headers, but not worth the premium price IMO. I also have Pacesetters on my 4cyl 1997 D21 pickup and they provide a significant performance increase. It seems that many Thorley owners like to bash PS for no good reason. I have never seen or heard about PS headers failing on a nissan. Properly installed headers should never see "extreme" pressures. If you want to complain or worry about exhaust leaks then you shouldn't be driving a WD21. As for quality, the welds on the Pacesetter headers are no better or worse than the Thorleys. I have no idea where Astroc2002 got the spot weld thing and I am an accomplished welder. The only difference between the two is that chrome plating is available on the Thorleys which will qiuckly change colors once they get hot. I personally prefer ceramic coating, but if you get painted headers you will want to have them stripped and repainted with high temp paint. The paint on the Pacesetters will burn off leaving bare metal exposed. The bottom line is this: Go for what you can afford. Get ALL of your studs replaced when you have the broken ones extracted. Save yourself some grief and have someone else install the headers. Neither Thorley or PS were direct bolt-on in my experience. Get a high-flow cat. It should be less than $100 Have your exahust shop use flanges and factory mounts for future maintenance or removal. I like the Flowmaster sound so I use them. 40s are pretty aggressive and 50s are more mellow in the cab. I had a glass pack and I hated it. 2.25" tubing to the muffler and 2.5" tailpipe worked the best for me. It kept the low end, but still got the big tube growl. Bash all you want, your entitled to your opinion. After all it is my right to an opinion as it is yours too. So I leave it up you guys. By the if your such the welder, why didn't you install your system. You would've saved yourself money in DIY. But hey what do I know... I'm just some guy who doesn't deserve a WD21. Just for mentioning that I am reporting you, so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 due to the fact I've heard on other forums I'm being honest from what I've seen with my very own eye's No offence meant but these 2 lines in the same post kind of contradict themselves. As for being an experienced welder and making your own exhaust, I am far from a pro at welding but still made my mix of pipes that I call an exhaust. It's ugly and a sound that I like. My plans for next time I do something different with it? Pay someone else to. p.s. what exactly are you trying to report here? I'm curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovemaN Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Wow! Bash? I provided opinions from personal experience with both products. I have a real problem with those who simply parrot what others have said so I chimed in. I did not claim that either system was better or worse. On the contrary I stated pros and cons of both. As an accomplished welder and mechanic I installed all THREE sets of headers myself. I also have extracted many broken manifold studs the hard way - by myself. If you could read beyond your keyboard would see that the only part of my exhaust that I had built for me was the cat-back. I do not have a proper tubing bender so I hired someone that knows more than I do when it comes to exhaust fabrication. I believe it was money well spent. As for someone without welding experience or the right equipment, I would always recommend professional installation to avoid aggravation. Neither Pacesetter or Thorley had a direct bolt-on fit. Both required modification. BTW - My comment about owning a WD21 is directly related to the well known (even to non Nissan owners) propensity for these trucks to have cracked manifolds and broken studs. Apparently that humor was lost in your translation. Edited June 25, 2009 by KovemaN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Ok gents, now you have both had your say. Lets cool off and let it be now. Thanks for both of your opinions on headers/exhaust... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 If you mean me B, I'm honestly not trying to stir anything, and I am just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precise1 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 No, not you nunya. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Just as long as you know I wasn't trying to start a debate or fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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