pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 so i was cruising home and it started sputterin and just shut off. crancks over but will not start. seems like its not getting gas. tried cleaning off some of the sensors and didnt make a difference. tried to listen to the fuel pump and couldn't hear anything. so that might be the problem do these trucks have any history of fuel pumps going bad? gonna go by my shop tmrw and grab my OBD2 and fuel pressure gauge and see what i can find out. so if anyones got any ideas lets hear em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01silvapathy Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Fuel Filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulptr Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 check the fuse to the fuel pump, and the relay. start with the cheapest option's first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzy Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 x2 on the relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 so i was cruising home and it started sputterin and just shut off. crancks over but will not start. seems like its not getting gas. tried cleaning off some of the sensors and didnt make a difference. tried to listen to the fuel pump and couldn't hear anything. so that might be the problem do these trucks have any history of fuel pumps going bad? gonna go by my shop tmrw and grab my OBD2 and fuel pressure gauge and see what i can find out. so if anyones got any ideas lets hear em The fuel pumps don't go bad, what goes bad is the connection on top of the fuel sender. Clean it up and you should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 (edited) ok so heres what happened, checked the fuse and relay. pulled up the back seat to get to the fuel tank. cleaned up the connections and it started up after a few tries. So i tried messing with the connections some more and it would not start. Tried all kinds of stuff clean it up but no luck. So finally i just hardwired the pump and tried to kick it and no go. ( Checked the wires and they were good) So i just went and picked up a new pump. Ran me $105. Gonna go throw it on in a couple hours after it cools down a lil outside. Its like 100 degrees over here. Edited September 26, 2010 by pathblazin420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Well that's...strange. The failure rate on the pump is insanely low... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 but they do still fail... you run your tank low alot? The fuel in the tank helps keep the pump cool (stick you hand in a tank of gas once, it's cool) and runnign low alot will keep the pump exposed more and make it run 'hotter', that mixed with a non-maintained fuel filter replacement schedule (making the pump work harder to pump through a clogged filter-breath through a clogged one comeared to a new one. You'll get the point) can cause premature wear/burnout of it. It IS just an electric pump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 (edited) yeah thats what i heard. i did run out of gas a few times so that might be why it went out. i know they dont like to run dry Edit: Yes i do run it a low a lot. So it makes sense. I got a fuel filter also which im going to replace. The current one was supposedly replaced in a tune up right before it bought the truck (about 15k miles ago) Edited September 26, 2010 by pathblazin420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 It's also a good measure to replace the relay whenever you replace a pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 I got a fuel filter also which im going to replace. It's also a good measure to replace the relay whenever you replace a pump. double for the couple extra bucks, it don't hurt and you can throw the old one in the glove box as a spare if it's still working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 relays already replaced. it was the first thing i did. its still like a 100 degrees outisde! i tried to get in the truck and its like a oven in there with a gnarly stench of gas. i almost passed out i wish i could roll into my garage but i got like 45 degreee driveway. no way its gettin pushed up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Use the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 (edited) he has an auto? Edited September 26, 2010 by nunya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Well damn, never mind then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 huh? its manual. im confused. what u guys talkin about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 then I was wrong "drive" it up the driveway using the starter and interlock switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 (edited) still confused...... its not running. no fuel pump in there u talkin about throwin it in gear? Edited September 26, 2010 by pathblazin420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 yup, put it in gear, push your interlock switch (don't know where it's at on a car50) let the clutch out and crank. The starter will move the whole drivetrain thus moving the truck until the battery dies. Or just be patient and wait for a little less sunshine and do it where it's at when it cools down for the day there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 yea thats what i thought u were talking about. i doubt that will be enuff to get it up my driveway man. its really steep and about 20 feet long. think ill just wait a couple more hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 lol @ the cheap russian who runs his tank low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathblazin420 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Share Posted September 26, 2010 its more that im lazy so i wait to get gas till im like below empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick88ss Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Stupid question but do you have enough gas in there now? When you wired the pump directly, did you hear it running? Did you run the ecu codes? Could be the distributor that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 yea thats what i thought u were talking about. i doubt that will be enuff to get it up my driveway man. its really steep and about 20 feet long. think ill just wait a couple more hours Oh believe me, it's got plenty enough power. MY1PATH has driven his around the block with the starter, and I've moved my Pathfinder around from the front lawn and up the driveway with the starter so many times the battery has gone dead. It's a slow process but effective, and goes a little faster if you stick it in 2nd gear. So new fuel pump, still no start? If it suddenly died and won't restart, the coil could also be suspect. Sorry to but Rick, you're also on Z31performance, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick88ss Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Sorry to but Rick, you're also on Z31performance, right? Yup. It's me. My wife has a 96 Pathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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