shane Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 would a h3 7000k xenon bulb be brighter then a h3 130watt,, I am trying to put in the brightest bulbs into my roof lights that take a h3 bulb cause i want alot of light when offroading if you guys dont think these bulbs are good enough what would be better? 7000k bulb 1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7000K-XENON...9%3A1|72%3A1171 7000k bulb 2 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nokya-HeadL...9%3A1|72%3A1171 130w bulb1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H3-clear-Ha...9%3A1|72%3A1171 and also what would be a great set of front brake pads i can put on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 o and not just 7000k bulbs 5000k,6000k,and 8000k 130w or any kind of Watt that i can find for a h3 bulb what ever would be the best please let me know i want to light up the trials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamzan Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 You need lights on your truck in a courtroom? (trials) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 no lol sorry >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosSaint Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 my 2 cents... I wouldn't consider the last one (130 watt), it looks like something I would cook up in my garage for the heck of it. There are no specs to go along with it either; i wouldn't trust it. Which leaves a comparison between a Xenon and a Halogen bulb. Halogens burn hotter therefore they are less efficient. I doubt you are really concerned with the efficiency (lumens per watt) of your light bulbs though. The "halogen" in halogen light bulbs refers to the gas that is contained within the bulb - halogens are right up next to noble gases on the periodic table (similarly with the xenon bulbs; xenon being one of the noble gases). In halogens, a thin filament of tungsten exists in a halogen gas and when a current is introduced it heats up, and when it heats up enough it's electrons get all excited and start bouncing around. Some of these electrons jump from one orbital to another and when they drop back the the original orbital the result is a photon (aka light), but this isn't a summary of quantum mechanics - if you're really curious let me know. Some of the tungsten atoms vaporize in the quartz core. There is some tungsten vapor cycle thing that i don't know much about that allows the vaporized tungsten to resettle back on the filament essentially recycling itself and therefore extending the overall life of the filament. Xenon light bulbs are a similar set up but with different hardware. Xenons don't last quite as long but from a comparison stand point I think they would preform a little better. It's also a difficult to compare Xenons vs Halogens solely based off of the required wattages. In the case of the halogen system, a greater activation energy is required to get those electrons moving, whereas in the case of the Xenon gas it requires less. Xenon has 8 valence electrons versus the halogens 7 on the periodic table so it kind of makes sense to me. with Xenon it's a little easier to get the electrons excited and jumping around... if only women were like that, right? There isn't much related to high intensity discharge (HID) bulbs. HID's work based on an arc instead of a filament on the inside. If there is no filament on the inside therefore there is nothing to burn out therefore they last a longer. The bulbs you are looking at both have a bluish tint on the exterior of the bulb resulting in the blue tint you see emitting from them. True xenon bulbs are set up as HID where the arc is utilized, but these are pricey. I'd be interested in how many lumens they emit, but neither of them state that in the specs. Personally I would go with the Xenon's. For $12 or $15 bucks just pick one and if you think they suck picking up another set isn't that big of a deal. If you really want to light up a trail look into the HID bulbs... or just wait for the sun to come up the 7000K, 8000K etc is the color temp, i'm not too sure what the "H3" indicates?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edicer2 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 h3 is the bulb size. but i would get a 5k-6k bulb for pure brightness. the higher you go the less bright they are from there anything over 8k is unnessarly blue. I would just get some 5-6k hids plus then they are only 35 watt and not 55w for 100 w like halogen my 2 cents. I can tella big difference in my 300zx with power draw with the hids its way less. i bought 8k and they are plenty bright but i know a 5-6k is the brightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 last week i bought these for my 6 in 100w wallmart off road lights i got them for 20 bucks each and figured i would put i brighter bulb in but when i put these bulbs in they wernt as bright as the 100w halogen bulb, that kinda pissed me off since i bought 4 of them and there are useless i put the 5000k next to the 100w outside and the 5000k was white which i liked but the 100w covered more ground witch i want but i know i there has to be a bright bulb like the 130w bulb but i want brighter the 5000k bulb that i put in my Rally offroad lights witch were not brighter http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...bayphotohosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 i bought these as well for my head lights i hope there good http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...em=260447503908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 if i was to buy the 130w bulbs i would probley buy these but i am probley going to try and get the 6000k or 7000k 130w bulbs http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-PACK-12V-...9%3A1|72%3A1171 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 why would these be brighter when they only say 80w are the lums still high does the wattage affect the lumen's would the 2 one be brighter since the wattage is 80w? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nokya-Light...9%3A1|72%3A1171 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nokya-HeadL...9%3A1|72%3A1171 these 3000k yellow bulbs take 100w and the higher 6000k and 7000k take 55w and 80w this is complicated http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...em=170358160728 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosSaint Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) why would these be brighter when they only say 80w are the lums still high does the wattage affect the lumen's would the 2 one be brighter since the wattage is 80w? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nokya-Light...9%3A1|72%3A1171 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nokya-HeadL...9%3A1|72%3A1171 these 3000k yellow bulbs take 100w and the higher 6000k and 7000k take 55w and 80w this is complicated http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...em=170358160728 The first link is a H3 Xenon Stage 1 bulb using 55 watts, the second link is a H3 Xenon Stage 2 bulb using 80 watts, the third is a Halogen bulb using 100 watts. The Stage 1 and Stage 2 bulb will have the same color temperature of 7000 kelvin, but the intensity will be different. Because of the increased wattage, I would expect the stage 2 to be brighter than the Stage 1. The third link is a halogen bulb at 3000 kelvin and 100 watts. Halogens require a greater wattage than xenons do. So, like I said above, it's difficult to compare the intensity or amount of light given off based solely on the wattage (between Xenon and halogen that is). They are 2 different bulbs with 2 different sets of requirements and characteristics. Also, at 3000 kelvin the light emitted will look more yellowish, similar to an incandesent light bulb in your house vs. a white/bulish tint of the 7000k xenon bulbs. 0 kelvin - 10,000 kelvin identifies the color of light in the visible spectrum, this isn't the whole spectrum, but as far as light bulbs are concerned it will fall somewhere in there. The higher temperature (5000+) the more green or blue it will look , the lower (5000 -) the more yellow or red the light will look. I think normal daylight falls somewhere between 5800 k and 6800 k? The closer you are to that range the closer it will appear as normal daylight, which is obviously desirable for night time driving. If I were you, I would first figure out if you want a Xenon or Halogen based bulb - there are hundreds of variations out there. After that, figure out what color temperature you want - this is probably personal preference. Someone may prefer a more yellow tint vs a pure white vs a blue light vs a daylight etc... After that, figure out what wattage you want. Intuitivley, the higher the wattage the more intense the light would be (the intensity might also depend on the diameter, length, # of coils of the filament and the % xenon or % halogen in the tube if you really want to get into the nitty gritty). All else fails, call up the manufacturer and ask them how many lumens a particular bulb will emit maybe? or call them and flat out ask which will be brighter/ more intense. Edited July 21, 2009 by ChaosSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 ok i want a 5000k or 6000k xenon bulb but i am trying to find out if they would be brighter then a 130w halogen bulb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 now im wondering if the l.e.d bulbs will be the brightest any idea? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2x-Car-9-LE...9%3A1|72%3A1171 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-6000K-W...9%3A1|72%3A1171 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-pcs-H3-Fo...9%3A1|72%3A1171 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosSaint Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 now im wondering if the l.e.d bulbs will be the brightest any idea? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2x-Car-9-LE...9%3A1|72%3A1171 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-6000K-W...9%3A1|72%3A1171 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-pcs-H3-Fo...9%3A1|72%3A1171 not too sure about the LED's... the majority of the diodes on the bulb face to the sides; this doesn't seem like an efficient way to project light foreward, although a decent amout will reflect outward. I wouldn't expect them to illuminate a great distance, compared to the xenons or halogens that is, but then again I don't know much about them in a headlight/ foglight application. It looks like they are intended for foglights, and not headlights? In regards to the Xenon/ Halogen debate, there just isn't enough information posted on ebay to determine which will produce a greater quantity of light. I would call up the manufacturers and ask. They have to have some information on how much light is emitted, if not, then their engineering department is a bunch of hacks. I believe you are looking for units of "lumens" or "lux". If you can get them to send you a full spec sheet, or any specific information, I can take a look at if for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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