My Nissan Dealership Sucks!

[Punkfinder]

93 SE-V6 here with at least one broken exhaust stud; planning on replacing all studs and having manifolds machined before reinstalling as I can't afford new ones at the moment...

 

Just stopped by the stealership to pick up my exhaust studs, and they hand me 12 studs (Part#14065-V5004) that say "STD TURBO CHG" on the package, and then another 6 studs (Part#14064-N4200) that just say "STUD".

 

I asked why they were giving me 18 studs when I only require (I think) 12 studs and was told that these 12 & 6 studs were what was required, no further explanation was given .

 

They also gave me a bunch of thick washers (Part#14037-V5005) that they said I'd need. I'm buying the gaskets elsewhere for financial reasons.

 

I've read the write-ups on replacing broken studs and as an amateur mechanic I'm already dreading the task.

 

Can anyone help me with what studs I should be using, the number of studs (although I'm 99.9% sure it's 12), and where these thick washers fit into the whole picture as there was no mention of them in any of the write-ups I came across or in my Haynes/Chilton?

 

I know I could figure a lot of this stuff out on my own if I just started taking things apart but the Pathy is my daily driver and I'd like to have all the right parts before I start dismantling.

 

Any assistance is much appreciated!!!

 

One other note: My local NAPA store said they had generic exhaust studs and I'd just need to give them the measurements. Should I stick with the Genuine Nissan studs or are these no-name NAPA studs okay?

[MY1PATH]

you only need the 12 turbo studs, they are stronger than your old ones and should not fail. the thick washers are to help cope with thermal expansion as they expand with the manifold and the nuts wont. it recuces metal fatige on the manifold and stud/nut by tranfeing it into the washer. I dont know anything about the other 6 studs maybe somone else knows something about that.

 

EDIT:

The other 6 studs would be for the flanges. They are almost impossible to remove without damaging. Yep, the turbo studs are what you are using to replace your exsiting/broken studs.

oh yeh the flanges thats right, I got the turbo studs for my headders but my lower flanges used bolts so I didn't think of that!

Edited November 14, 2008 by MY1PATH

[5523Pathfinder]

Im sure your parts guy is assuming you are putting on new exhaust manifolds. The other 6 studs would be for the flanges. They are almost impossible to remove without damaging. Yep, the turbo studs are what you are using to replace your exsiting/broken studs.

 

Here you can see where the studs go(circled in red). Even gives you torque spec, if you like...

 

Here is where your flange studs go, if you use new manifolds....

Edited November 13, 2008 by 5523Pathfinder

[Punkfinder]

Thanks guys, this is all making sense now. I guess I'll hang on to the larger flange studs just in case I need to remove them and they break.

[adamzan]

One other note: My local NAPA store said they had generic exhaust studs and I'd just need to give them the measurements. Should I stick with the Genuine Nissan studs or are these no-name NAPA studs okay?

 

FWIW I'm pretty sure this is what my mechanic used on mine, and I haven't had any problems since I had it done over two months ago. Time will tell though. He said if I ever have any problems just bring it back

Edited November 13, 2008 by redfinder