jrvanas Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Hello everyone, As an FYI - I have looked at other posts and have seen some material surrouding this topic - but Nissan is explaining something different... 2 problems: 1 - 'clunk' at low speeds when turning wheel 2 - 'high pitch' from front end while driving 1> When turning the wheel at low speeds I am hearing and feelings a 'clunk' from the front end. I have read that it might be the steering stops (however the 01 pathy does not have them according to the mechanic). 2> While driving next to a wall or parked cars I am hearing a high pitch squel. I read that it might be the dust boots. Nissan is telling me that my brakes are brand new (I bought the used car 6 months ago) so the pads are not low. He said that I would have to replace the brakes to fix the noise - I dont think the whole pad assembly needs to be replaced. Any thoughts from anyone? Should I try a new Nissan dealership and let them look at it? Thanks! `JV' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 2. it maybe brakes. Well, it is 2004 and thus just because you bought it 6mo ago doesn't mean that the breaks are OK. it is an 01 right? without hearing/seeing for myself can't tell. it could be all kinds of things. check your shields on the exhaust and/or for something rubbing on the drive shaft(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Wheel bearing maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrvanas Posted July 19, 2004 Author Share Posted July 19, 2004 Thanks guys, I am going to lift the car this weekend and see if I see any obstructions. I can have someone turn the wheel while I listen and look. For the wheel bearings - is there an esy way to tell if they are shot? Thanks JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 if they look pitted, corroded etc.. they are shot. without looking you're just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrvanas Posted July 19, 2004 Author Share Posted July 19, 2004 Thanks - I'll take a look this weekend and let everyone know in case they have this problem too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrvanas Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 Well it looks like the "clunk" was related to the stearing connection - I think it was over torqued. I re-torqued them and the noise is very minimal now - I might re torque the whole front end if I have time. I replaced the shims on the front brakes and the noise is still there even with the lube. I might see if new brake pads do the job in a couple months. ~jrvanas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Is the squeal there all the time? or just when you brake? or just when you're not braking and it stops when you brake? Is the squeal there in 2WD and 4WD? On any particular road surface? Just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrvanas Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Hey Mark, The noise is there 24.7 when rolling - with or without gas and of course the noise is there with the brakes applied since the car is moving. The noise does not get louder with brakes appliued. I notice the noise on all pavement surfaces - have not been offraod. ~jrvanas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revgolem Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 that's funny, i recently started noticing something simular in my 95. almost like a dog whistle or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrvanas Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yeah, I notice the the noise when driving next to parked cars or next to walls. I'm not sure if it's the front or rear end.... ~jrvanas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I reckon if it were your brakes they'd do it either when you were braking or when you're not braking. Not both ways. Have you checked out the wheel bearings? Usually, old bearings will make an audible humming sound for a few weeks or months before they start to squeal. BUT, sometimes not. And sometimes you won't notice the humming sound over the hum from A/T or M/T tires. A quick test: Get on a nice, smooth, uncrowded piece of road somewhere, crank it up to about 40 MPH (or whatever works best for you) and slip the gearbox into neutral. Just coast and see if the sound is still there. If the squeal is there when you're rolling in neutral, It's definitely your wheel bearings. If the squeal is NOT there when you're rolling in neutral, It's definitely in the driveline (gearbox / diff) etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrvanas Posted September 8, 2004 Author Share Posted September 8, 2004 Thanks so much - was trying to figure out how I could test this. I was going to pop up on jack stands but that was too unsafe in my mind. I will give this a try on the way to work tomorrow - hopefully not too much traffic. Wait I live in boston - I guess I will try in out works parking lot - lol Thanks again, ~jrvanas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 even in neutral, drive shaft and rear diff will turn if the tk is rolling. If you have four stands you could prop under the chassis and then inspect, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 If you get it in your mind to put it up on axle stands - DON'T. You're right, it's a danger to life, limb and sheet metal. If you have to do this, take it to a mechanic and get him to put it up on his hoist with you in the car. Then put it in gear and roll the wheels with him standing underneath listening. It's his neck, his workshop, his insurance and his responsibility. A good mechanic will have a go, though. I did exactly this recently to diagnose a different kind of sound. Worked perfectly. Took the guy 5 minutes to correctly diagnose what half a dozen "specialists" couldn't find in the previous 6 months... Oh, yeah, also: Don't bother trying to put the truck on a dyno to replicate the sound in a workshop. The rollers make too d@mned much noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 If you get it in your mind to put it up on axle stands - DON'T.You're right, it's a danger to life, limb and sheet metal. Hey, I have done this with the stand many, many times. You just have to be very carefull but it really is no prob... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 You're a braver man than I... (It's not the risk to life and limb. I'ts the fear of bending something expensive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 OK, I see you're uni so that's different. I lift mine up on 3or4 ton jackstands and put them under the chassis rails. It sits dead weight, no budge. Of course if it's running I am not getting too far under there but if it's off no prob. I don't know exactly where and how the jacking points are on the uni but that's kinda tricky anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Jrvanas, Dude, did you ever figure out what was squealing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrvanas Posted October 8, 2004 Author Share Posted October 8, 2004 Nope! Still working on it every freaking weekend. Sorry for the delayed post. ~Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkpath96 Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 About the clunk noise: I have had a clunking noise in my '96 since I bought it used a couple years ago. It happens at low speeds mostly, when I apply fairly strong acceleration and/or deceleration. The noise is a low clunk that I can't pinpoint but it is under the vehicle, behind the driver seat, I think. I can feel it through the floor. If I accelerate hard, it clunks. Then it will only clunk again if I brake hard. I did notice a cross-member that has broken loose back by where the speed sensor is on the tranny - could this be the culprit? I think the cross-member supports the exhaust system but I'll have to look again. Only thing is, that's on the passenger side... Any ideas/similar problems out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94extreme Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 this just popped in my head. the only squick i have ever had that was pretty much on all the time was when my balljoint went, and i mean busted off. thank g that i was going just a couple mph. if you step on the front bumper and bounce do you hear that sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Had the squealing noise for a while too on my 90 Pathy. First only after slowing down from a long freeway run, like when you get off, and would squeal until u stop for awhile. Then finally all the time, even hear it at 65 mph. Mechanic took apart the auto 4x4 hubs and repacked them and haven't heard any thing since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkpath96 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I tried stepping on the bumper and jumping it up and down but never heard the clunk sound. it almost sounds like someone is punching the floor when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madizm620 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I had the same clunking noise in my 92 pathy and i could feel it on the drivers side, felt like it was right under me and it even made the same squeeling noise talked about in this post i greased my upper ball joints and the sound and clunking noise is gone but i'm thinking i should actually replace the ball joints soon before they break off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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