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  1. I have an 89 Pathfinder SE-6 cyl. Manual Trans. that when cold, starts and immediatly goes into fast idle ( about 1300 rpm ) however it starts running so rich, that it runs like a carbed vehicle with a stuck choke. It idles rough, and shakes until the tempature comes up to the bottom of the gauge. Then as the temp continues to rise, idle settles down to normal and runs just fine. My questions are this. Has anyone experinced this ? And what could be the possible causes? I've done a thourough tune up. Plugs, wires, cap and rotor. Replaced all the vacum lines, checked for vacum leaks ( because that what it acts like ).However about 4 monthes ago, I replaced the O2 sensor and unhooked the battery while doing so. When I re-connected the battery and started the engine, this symptom starts. A few people have replyed in regards to resetting the ECU, and some have said that disconnecting and reconnecting the battery will reset the ECU. And others have said that cycling the starter or starting the engine at least 50 times, will do the same thing?

    This rough idle and rich condition have been driving me nuts and I'm unable to read the codes from the ECU since I don't have access to a FSM.

    Any ideas !?

     

    Thanks,

     

    krmiller07

    krmiller70@hotmail.com

     

    km@frozenrotors.com

     

    dude...you may have a code stored so try running an ecu test see what code its throwing if any...

     

    ecu test link

    http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=21

     

     

     

    let us know what you find :beer:

  2. yes i did... so that means my ecu erased the codes am I right?

     

    IIRC, i think its 50 engine starts or - side of battery disconnection to erase stored ecu codes....may be the same with trans test :shrug:

  3. So I did another code check on the POWER light, and at first it just kept on flashing like crazy....and it didnt stop. so I did the procedure again and now it keeps one paused flash then 10 quick ones. And did another one on the ECU and got only 1 code 55. Any idea? as now my truck is in no movement whatsoever... :(

     

    Did you unplug the - side of the battery or have a dead battery since u posted that

     

    codes were present?

  4. When you took the fuel pump out... The thing it's connected to that actually bolts to the tank. That piece. Where the wires go through it, the little round "buds" on the top, they short in there. You don't need to re-wire the whole truck or replace the whole fuel system, I guess some things are harder to explain over the Internet :shrug:

     

    So from what I described you think the sending unit/harness assembly is the culprit? It does only blow the 10a fuse when the harness is connected...but why wont it blow a 15a fuse and still not allow the pump to energize?

  5. NOpe, gauge can still work, that wiring still gotta go from the plug to the pump for the pump to actually work and it IS a 20 year old chunck of metal with wires runnin through it. I've had to do it on 2 different d21s I had for the same reason. Takes a little more juice to run the pump than the gauge

     

    :scratchhead: what exactly are you saying? You think I need the whole intank assembly w/

    harness? I dont even think they sell that @!*%

  6. The float assembly for the fuel pump shorts out, in turn pops the fuse. When you did the fuel pump did you replace JUST the fuel pump or the float assembly and all?

     

    Just the pump....and what do you mean the float assembly shorts out? That would just mean the gauge wouldn't work, correct? Gauge works

  7. 89 Pathfinder 4x4 Auto

     

    ok here we go....

    About 2 months ago while driving down a hill, decelarating, and taking a turn the truck shut off. Fuel pump fuse was blown...had a spare 10a, put it in and ran until...

    Last weekend the 10a fuel pump fuse started blowing when trying to start, wont start. Unplugged FP connector, key in the on position or cranking doesnt pop a 10a fuse. Plug in FP connector pops 10a fuse and the Pump wont run. Put in a 15a...doesnt pop with the fp connected, but pump wont run. Swapped FP relays and pops a 10a but not a 15a but the pump wont run. Inspect harnesses, no visual damage or shorts that i can see. Confirm battery voltage at fp connector with key on(while connected) with 15a fuse in. Install new FP and 10a fuse and guess what :scratchhead: the fuse pops and the PUMP WONT RUN! :wtf: Hotwire old pump for @!*%s and giggles and it runs. Dont think its a dead short, not blowing 15a.

     

    Now im thinking Crank Sensor and/or circuit or ecu is toast. Ecu has to get a 1deg signal from the CAS for the pump to turn on(when the key is turned to on position)

     

    Im losing it here...anyone with some insight

     

    Pathfinders pffffhhhh :wackinit:

  8. So I did the test for the trans. the way amo1dun said, and so this is what happened:

     

    1 solid flash (but it was a slow one compared to the others)paused then 2 flashes paused then 8 really quick flashes.

     

    what code is that?

     

    I also did the self diagnostic test with the ECU and got code 14 and code 33

     

    anyone has a pic as to where the vehicle speed sensor is located?

     

    and what to do about the "heated oxygen sensor" and how many oxygen sensors does the PF have? as my dad's neon has 2 OX sensors :scratchhead:

     

    Thanks guys... :D

     

    If the 2nd flash on the power light is staying lit longer than the others then thats the VSS.

  9. mm, ok cool thanks for the replys... now how about do I go to check "that" code? :)

     

    This is the trans test For a 92 Path...others are similar. Keep in mind when my POWER light started flashing I ran the test right at that time it started flashing and it gave a trouble code...After that one instance, the POWER light was normal upon startup thereafter, and a trouble code was and still wont display upon testing. :shrug: I cant find a reference on if it stores a code for a period of time. After the last step when you depress the accelerator, read your power(OD)light. There will be a start signal and 10 judgement flickers after that. Count the flickers...when it holds a flash(for like 2 seconds) thats your trouble code.

    If it starts, then blinks 10 times normally, there's no trouble code.

     

    1) Turn ignition switch to OFF position. Set power shift switch to AUTO

    position. Set overdrive switch to ON position and move selector lever

    to "P" position. Turn ignition switch to ON position, but DO NOT start

    engine. If power shift indicator lamp comes on for about 2 seconds, go

    to next step.

    2) Turn ignition switch to OFF position. Push shift lock

    release button. Move selector lever to "D" position and set overdrive

    switch to OFF position. Turn ignition switch to ON position, but DO

    NOT start engine. Wait for more than 2 seconds, after turning ignition

    switch ON, and move selector lever to "2" position.

    3) Set overdrive switch to ON position and move selector

    lever to "1" position. Set overdrive switch to OFF position. Depress

    accelerator pedal to floor and release. Power shift indicator lamp

    will flash trouble code.

  10. Yes, that's where it mounts to the exhaust. It plugs in to a harness on the passenger side of the engine bay. Good thing is, TBI O2 sensors don't do that much drive ability-wise.

     

    Check to make sure the TPS sensor plug didn't come undone, or wires didn't break. If it's good, pull the plug off and make sure there's no corrosion on/in the contacts.

     

    Does it smell rich, or use more fuel than normal? Also, check damn well to make sure there's no arching of the coil wire... it will mess with you for days and will make you feel like an idiot for dinking around with everything else when a piece of electrical tape can fix the problem.

     

    This is what mine did with a slightly arching coil wire, which was brand new by the way.

    http://www.youtube.c...h?v=VUpwo0eti4I

    Dude thats too funny..I watched your video on the engine cutting out like 2 months ago. Anyways, Im not really a believer in false trans codes, If it was throwing the power light( and it has 3 times in the last 2 months) on startup for the TPS, then it has to be reading a discrepancy somewhere in the circuit :crossedwires: But still cant get a 43 out of the ecu :shrug: I just dont want to start pulling connectors. cant the TPS throw Idle Engine Speed and Ignition Timing off if you dont test it accordingly, including unplugging the IAC valve and following certain steps on testing and adjusting?

  11. check your O2 sensor before the TPS. The easiest way is to just unplug it under the hood and see if driveability improves. sometimes they don't trigger a trouble code in the ECU when they go bad.

     

    Tried this already...and its actually screwed in the front pipe on my 89.

  12. OK I just got the part from the dealership, it looks like this:

     

    22630-WD21003.jpg

     

    Can someone verify that this is the correct part?

     

    That is a cylinder head temp sensor or an engine coolant temperature sensor(same thing)...Its definetely not the one for the gauge (That has 1 male end)

  13. Stupid 89 Pathfinder 4x4 98K miles Automatic

     

    Hesitates No power in 1st noticeably sometimes(like im pulling a damn tree), needle on tach gauge fluctuates( wont hold steady speed you can see it backing off on the gauge and when it shifts from 1st to 2nd sometimes slingshots below 1000rpm sputters bad and wants to cut out but never stalls) Usually happens after im stopped at a light, then takeoff again or when taking turns at slow speeds then accelerating again.

     

    I got a flashing power light yesterday when I turned the key(Not the normal flash, the one that says my @!*% is being stupid) Did the A/T test and got the 3rd judgement flicker on the power light...which is TPS shorted or disconnected. Checked ECU also and shows 55 everything ok. Power light flashes normally now and has since then.

     

    Cat is good

    Tranny Fluid looks good newer tranny with cooler(f'n better be)

    Plugs Wires cap rotor fuel filter at last oil change

    MAF is clean

     

     

    Can someone help with some steps to test the tps and adjust it if necessary?

     

    THanks as always

  14. Hows it flashing,aome flash once on starrt up.If its running fine and theres nothing wrong with the transmission(low fluid,metal in the pan.Then I'd chalk it up as a mystery code.

     

     

    Usually light illuminates briefly( a second or two)

     

    Got in yesterday and it flashed repeatedly for idk maybe a good 10 seconds.

    Did this twice yesterday.

     

    Today seems normal, illuminated briefly

  15. Hey all...

     

    89 Path AT 95k mi

    Turned the key and the power light started flashing...f'n pissed me off. New tranny has 12k on it, auxiliary cooler,

    and seems to go thru all the gears ok. I know there is a way to test the tranny just cant find the info. Can someone help me with the AT self test please...??

     

    THanks

  16. I got it! Cylinder Head Temp Sensor is all good! without having to take off the tbelt cover!

     

    Removed pulley bracket(Thanks to MY1PATH) See his post above for steps to remove its very easy. Using a maglite, locate the sensor behind the cover. Unplug the connector(Their is a metal clip holding the connector on) Once off, I cut 1/2" off of a 6point 3/8 13/16 spark plug socket and pulled the rubber piece out of the socket and it fit perfect over the connector....Put the socket on first.(worked it behind the cover w/ my fingers and lined the points up with the nut) then used a 6" 3/8 extension and 3/8 ratchet. Used this just to loosen the sensor( until it hit the back of the cover)then it came out by hand. Putting the new 1 in...Hand tightened the sensor and used needlenose pliers until it was in far enough to work the socket back on, then the extension. Tightened it up, plugged the connector back in, Put the belt and bracket back on and thats it....No more code 13, code 55 all good! Running alot better! :beer:

     

    th_DSCN0415.jpg

    (Pulley bracket off, Sensor is behind the curve in the cover in the pic...follow that harness next to the cap down)

     

    th_DSCN0440.jpg

    (Temp Sensor removed)

     

    th_DSCN0438.jpg

    ( You can see how close it is to the cover...Hand tighten until you can get the socket back on)

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  17. losten the pulley with a 14mm wrench. (1 or 2 turns is all you need) then back off the pulley tensioner blolt just above the pulley with a 12mm untill the pulley slides down far enough to slip the belt off Just let it hang there unless u plan on driving w/ it off. The bracket will now come off with 3 bolts; 1 near the AC pump one on the opposite end of the bracket and one Hiding just below the pulley (all 12mm)

     

    when you put the belt back on the tesion should be so that you can push the belt aprox 1" with moderate effort then you can snug the pulley nut.

     

     

    Most places with have both sensors (guage & ecu) under the same listing the one for the ECU is technically a Cyl Head temp sensor (on vg30i) but you will likely not find one by that name. SO yes you will have to varify that it has a 2 lead plug before buying.

     

    Rock Auto denotes them seprately as "sender" and "sensor" the latter being the one you want.

     

    Hey I really appreciate it My1PATH and everyone that responded...I knew you guys would be able to help. I will do this in the next week and will take pics of every step.

  18. I just got it! took the Idler pulley bracket off and use a needle nose and tiny screw driver to unclip the wire lead. then I slid a 19mm mid length 12point in there. A 6 point won't clear the plug a regular 19mm will not reach past the plug and a deep 19mm will hang up on the timing cover. If you only have a deep well you can cut it down till it just clears the cover. Kingman gont raped on his! 5.5 hrs of labor Ha! try an hour tops.

     

    My connectors were coroded and the old sensor fell apart as soon as I got it out. Clean contancts & new sensor I'm hoping for the best now.

     

     

    OH and It measures your Cyl head temps WITHOUT being Imersed in coolant so you don't have to drain anything and feel stupid like I did.

    alos using 3/8" drive w/ extension instead of 1/2" drive will make clearing the timing cover allot easier

     

    Great Job!! :clap:

     

    How do you remove the idler pulley bracket? The belt and idler pulley have to be removed to get to the bracket, correct? Can you explain how you did that?

     

    " so you don't have to drain anything and feel stupid like I did." .... Imagine how I feel.... :headwall:

     

    PS- The part name when ordering is "Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor" or "Water Temperature Sensor" and should have 2 leads in the connector...right?

     

    I will definitely take pics.

  19. I was looking @ this today, my truck has been getting ~12mpg and poping exhuast since I got back from cali. It smells a little rich and last week it threw code 13 but has not done so again...

    ANyway a shop chaged kingman 5.5 hrs of labor for his old pathy because it was underneath the intake manifold... I am hoping that if I take off the AC idler backet and maybe a coolant hose or 2 I will be able to sneak in there and change it.(reaching thru the gaps in the timing cover)

     

    It seems awfully tight in their man...I can get my maglite to touch the sensor thru the front, but I think the angle of the sensor will make it tough to get a socket in their without removing the cover....5 1/2 hours labor at the shop to change...? :crazy:

  20. Thank for the responses guys...Just so Im clear are these the sensors?....

     

    th_DSCN0397.jpg Engine coolant temp sensor on top(sending unit for gauge)

     

    th_DSCN0402.jpg Cylinder Head Temp Sensor thats buried

     

    How do I get to the cylinder head temp sensor..? Do I really have to take the tbelt cover off or can u sneak in by the water pump or from the top with a swivel and extension...What do you guys think, any hints?

     

    Thanks for reponding guys

    Thanks

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