quick speedo Q

[edicer2]

I have a 92 pathy with a bad speedo and odometer and I have a 5 speed manual . Ik theres other with the same problem but i didnt wan tto jack their thread. I just wanted to know if I were to buy a auto or a manual cluster with a working speedo from 90-92 will the speedo part be the same. ( ik the cluster looks a little different) but are the gears and stufff the same so i can just swap them out into mine?

[bitemedoughboy.com]

I have a 92 pathy with a bad speedo and odometer and I have a 5 speed manual . Ik theres other with the same problem but i didnt wan tto jack their thread. I just wanted to know if I were to buy a auto or a manual cluster with a working speedo from 90-92 will the speedo part be the same. ( ik the cluster looks a little different) but are the gears and stufff the same so i can just swap them out into mine?

they should all be the same, the drive gears have different teeth counts to adjust for the different ratios in the auto/manual rigs. you should be able to tear it apart and take the speedo out of an auto cluster and stuff it into your manual cluster.

[edicer2]

ok thanks

[edicer2]

Ok so it should work then? would a cluster from a 93 work also? I found one cheap on ebay.

[bitemedoughboy.com]

Ok so it should work then? would a cluster from a 93 work also? I found one cheap on ebay.

as long as the style of cluster is the same shape i dont see why not...

[edicer2]

its the same shape they changed it a little but like the heat and volt gauge are in the center instead of the sides but thats not reall important because i dont think thats replated to the speedo part at all.

[bitemedoughboy.com]

its the same shape they changed it a little but like the heat and volt gauge are in the center instead of the sides but thats not reall important because i dont think thats replated to the speedo part at all.

it should work, the speedo is its own little assembly iirc.

[edicer2]

ok sweet thanks

[edicer2]

Ok i have 2 things.....

 

1 I got a different cluster from a 88 and it was also from a manual and it looked just like mine but orange. Well i knew the tach wouldnt work but everything else besides that tach and the speedo and the odmetere worked. I also dont know if they speedo worked on the one i tested the junk yard gave it to me since they didnt know and were about to crush the car. I took the dash out and drove with no cluster. I say the cable spinning but when i put the cluster back in it didnt work. Did i get another bad cluster or is something f'ed up on my cable? It looked like a square. Also it seemed to be spining.Should I try another cluster? Also when you put the cluster on does it kinda feel like its springy mine felt like it was i could push on it and it would pop back just a tiny bit.

 

2 how do you get the needles off i want t otake out the speedo part of one of the clusters and test it with out the whole cluster in there. I couldnt figure out how to get them off though and didnt want to break them. Do they pop off somehow?

[edicer2]

anyone? ^^^

[edicer2]

bump need to know got pulled over this morning

[Indigent]

It can be a bit of a PITA to get the cluster back in and seated on the speedo cable. That little white plastic springy assembly with the square end needs to seat into the square hole in the speedo. If your cluster is springing back at you, you didn't get it seated into the hole. Be careful because you can break that little springy plastic piece and will have to get another one. Make sure that springy thing is on the cable all the way then install the cluster.

 

To get the needles off just pull them up. Grab as close to the shaft as possible. They are not keyed or anything. It can be hard to put the needle back on in the right place accurately. I did it by RPM. At 40mph when the tranny has shifted into OD, you will be almost dead on at 1500rpm, assuming you have stock tires. Otherwise if you have a gps handy set the cruise and place the needle back on. It is very touchy and just the slightest jerk will make it wrong. It took me about 5 tries to get the needle on where it needed to be. You cannot do this at a stop because the shaft of the speedo has no mechanical limit. That is what the little plastic peg is for; it stops the needle at zero. If that little peg wasn't there, the needle would go a ways below zero.

Edited January 26, 2009 by Indigent

[Precise1]

It can be a bit of a PITA to get the cluster back in and seated on the speedo cable.

Yes, I believe this is the issue you are having.

 

It is very touchy and just the slightest jerk will make it wrong. It took me about 5 tries to get the needle on where it needed to be. You cannot do this at a stop because the shaft of the speedo has no mechanical limit.

 

You can always clock it with a marker to get close...

 

B

[edicer2]

ok thanks for the help i will try and make sure the cable is seated properly in the back of the cluster.

[edicer2]

ok well last night i tried once again to solve this. I can spin the needle in the cluster using a square bit that fits into the back of the cluster. Thats in my new cluster. In my old one it doesnt spin. so the old cluster is definantly broke. SO i went and put the new cluster in and sure as @!*% it doesnt work yet again so by this time im getting pissed. So i take the whole cluster and drive down the road with out it watching the end of the speedo cable. The end is spining but then it occurd to me to check to see if its broke so i touch it and sure enough the end quits spining as soon as i touch it but it looks like the rest of the cable is still spining. How can both the speedo and the cable have broken?

[BonnerBB]

ok well last night i tried once again to solve this. I can spin the needle in the cluster using a square bit that fits into the back of the cluster. Thats in my new cluster. In my old one it doesnt spin. so the old cluster is definantly broke. SO i went and put the new cluster in and sure as @!*% it doesnt work yet again so by this time im getting pissed. So i take the whole cluster and drive down the road with out it watching the end of the speedo cable. The end is spining but then it occurd to me to check to see if its broke so i touch it and sure enough the end quits spining as soon as i touch it but it looks like the rest of the cable is still spining. How can both the speedo and the cable have broken?

 

Thought about a in car GPS instead of messing with your speedo? Most all of them have the option to show your speed...

Plus it will tell you where to go when you get lost in the big city...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/ca..._-GPS_T529-0060

[edicer2]

i thought about it but its more convient to just look at a cluster. Well i guess i still have my old pathy for parts at my freinds house ill go try and pull the cable off of it becasue ik that one works lol

[Precise1]

sure enough the end quits spining as soon as i touch it but it looks like the rest of the cable is still spining. How can both the speedo and the cable have broken?

 

Sounds like the square piece crimped (guess) to the end of the cable is loose, allowing it to spin. See if this is the case, try recrimping the end or replacing the cable.

 

B

[bitemedoughboy.com]

did you try reversing the drill? it will only make the needle move if turned in the correct rotation, i believe counter clockwise as viewed from the rear for the cluster, a drill normally runs clockwise.

[edicer2]

Sounds like the square piece crimped (guess) to the end of the cable is loose, allowing it to spin. See if this is the case, try recrimping the end or replacing the cable.

 

B

 

I iwll have to check that out thanks hopefullyi can just crimp it lol

 

 

did you try reversing the drill? it will only make the needle move if turned in the correct rotation, i believe counter clockwise as viewed from the rear for the cluster, a drill normally runs clockwise.

yeah i tried spining it bother ways and didnt work so i tried on my new one i got and it worked right away so ill take it apart one of these days and see what is broke.