Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 im changing them today and my roter is stuck on there and i know about the screwbut it just wont come off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagwoodzz Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I don't know Bobby, I took the screw off the rotor button and is slid right off. Did you take the screw all the way out? Maybe it got hot and melted or so some corrosion occured and siezed it to the distributor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Twist and pull....it'll come off. The shaft of the distributor is steel....worst case, you'll break the plastic of the rotor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 I don't know Bobby, I took the screw off the rotor button and is slid right off. Did you take the screw all the way out? Maybe it got hot and melted or so some corrosion occured and siezed it to the distributor? i was doing that and it just is not coming off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Mine did that too the first time I changed it. Ugh. Took a while and a lot of prying but it eventually came off. I think there's a brass sleeve inside that seems to like to adhere to the distributor shaft. Just don't twist too hard, you don't want to strip the distributor shaft or gear at the bottom somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 it sure is a pain in the butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriskaw440 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 don't feel bad....first time I tried to replace my cap and rotor when I first got my 1990 pathy....I tried and tried and tried to get the rotor off......(this is before I had a Haynes manual to refer to) and whacked it and pried on it with a big screwdriver......(now you have to understand, this is my first piston engine since restoring 3 mazda RX-7's and my first nissan vehicle....) so after taking a break, and figuring that there has to be something holding it on to the shaft.....so I took a closer look ALL THE WAY AROUND the rotor....and there it was.....that darn little screw that just happened to be facing the plenum so I couldnt see it head on....... "well damn!" I said to myself, as I reached for my little short handled phillips screwdriver.....it unscrewed with ease and VOILA! the rotor slid off the shaft with just a slight tug. So I learned that SOME distributors are held in place with a friggin little screw instead of just being a snug fit on the shaft. I must have come a long way since then......I managed to do my own knock sensor all by my little self and we all know where that little bastard is located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 don't feel bad....first time I tried to replace my cap and rotor when I first got my 1990 pathy....I tried and tried and tried to get the rotor off......(this is before I had a Haynes manual to refer to) and whacked it and pried on it with a big screwdriver......(now you have to understand, this is my first piston engine since restoring 3 mazda RX-7's and my first nissan vehicle....) so after taking a break, and figuring that there has to be something holding it on to the shaft.....so I took a closer look ALL THE WAY AROUND the rotor....and there it was.....that darn little screw that just happened to be facing the plenum so I couldnt see it head on....... "well damn!" I said to myself, as I reached for my little short handled phillips screwdriver.....it unscrewed with ease and VOILA! the rotor slid off the shaft with just a slight tug. So I learned that SOME distributors are held in place with a friggin little screw instead of just being a snug fit on the shaft. I must have come a long way since then......I managed to do my own knock sensor all by my little self and we all know where that little bastard is located. well I found the screw but its just stuck on the shaft. I'm about to go outside and fight it some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 As long as the shaft isn't also turning, and just the rotor is. keep playing with it. It'll come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagwoodzz Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Just talked to Bobby and he got the rotor off, but the metal sleeve is still on. He's going to try to put some heat on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Penetrating oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagwoodzz Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) Edit: WD-40 got the sleeve off, but now the timings off. He was able to get it close enough but needs to be fine tuned. Edited May 30, 2008 by dagwoodzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Did he take the whole distributor out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Did he take the whole distributor out? no i didn't i need some really helpful advise now the pathy wont start i think the timing might be off but i re timed it still nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Did you put the plug wires on the new cap in the right order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Did you put the plug wires on the new cap in the right order? yes i did all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Weird. The shaft shouldn't have turned, so if you put the cap in the right place, and the rotor on (there's only 1 way) and you've got the wires right, it should start. If the shaft turned while you were pulling the rotor off, something's seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Weird. The shaft shouldn't have turned, so if you put the cap in the right place, and the rotor on (there's only 1 way) and you've got the wires right, it should start. If the shaft turned while you were pulling the rotor off, something's seriously wrong. i think i might of messed it up bad. I might need to just try to re time it again and start over the timing marks on the crank shaft what mark does it have to be on. There are a few of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 you don't want to strip the distributor shaft or gear at the bottom somehow. i hope to god that didn't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 i think i might of messed it up bad. I might need to just try to re time it again and start over the timing marks on the crank shaft what mark does it have to be on. There are a few of them. Right in the middle is 15degrees BTDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj big shoe Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 The furthest left is zero degrees, then they increment five degrees as you move clockwise. Check the sticker under your hood for reference, but AFAIK timing should be 12 degrees, between the third and fourth mark from the left. If you turn the crank clockwise until the zero mark lines up with the timing pointer, your rotor should line up with the #1 plug contact inside the cap. If not, rotate the crank 360* again since you might be on the exhaust stroke. Also double check the wiring and vacuum hoses around where you were working. Something might have jarred loose while you were fighting the rotor off. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagwoodzz Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 His shaft was screwed, you could hold one end and turn the other. Swapped it with the parts car and it's running now. Just when the timing sounds right, when you tighten it down it gets off. Bobby's going to get a timing light tomorrow and nail it down. Thanks for all your help guys, that was the hardest tune up I've ever seen. At least he didn't have to buy a distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 His shaft was screwed, you could hold one end and turn the other. Swapped it with the parts car and it's running now. Just when the timing sounds right, when you tighten it down it gets off. Bobby's going to get a timing light tomorrow and nail it down. Thanks for all your help guys, that was the hardest tune up I've ever seen. At least he didn't have to buy a distributor. yeah thanks everyone not sure what I would do without everyone thanks Dag for the distributor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Wow....how the hell did that happen? Anyways, glad you got her going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Wow....how the hell did that happen? Anyways, glad you got her going. not really sure, but i think the pin that keeps the gear in the right spot on the shaft broke. I think that is because i was trying to turn the rotor to get it off and it broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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