black95 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I have had my pathy for about a year now and I have enjoyed a lot. Though this last oil change, and starter replacement, I noticed that there was a bolt that was missing from the front lower control arm, drivers side. In reading other posts and other sites I have found that these bolts come loose quite often. I still have two of the four complete and one needs a nut, and I think I will replace them all just for safety sake. The question I have is this, I want to put on a 2-3 inch lift, but I have found none that would replace those bolts, does anyone know where I could find replacement bolts? I really don't want to get rid of this truck. Other than the starter going out I haven't had any major problems, I plan on relocating my oil filter on with my next oil change to help save my starter. The bolts I am talking about are in the included picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dealer or junkyard. No sense in changing the others unless they have been overtorqued or removed several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black95 Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 Thanks, I am going to call the Dealer tomorrow to get the price, then go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Those bolts aren't prone to simply falling off by themselves. I've never seen anyone complain about such a problem, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Same here. I suspect the bolt had been loosened somewhere along the line and not properly re-torqued. Which brings up a good point - that is a critical bolt and must be properly torqued to the factory spec when you install the new one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black95 Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 I thought it was a little weird that they had come out. I am definately going to make sure that they are torqued correctly. Thanks for the heads up, every where else that I have found had said that they come loose and end up missing quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
govols74n Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Call a local machine shop if you cant find the bolt, they can make you one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotirefryer Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 OMG, just go to a junkyard and get the bolt, and take a 1/2 impact and tighten the piss outta the bolts. problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mws Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 OMG, just go to a junkyard and get the bolt, and take a 1/2 impact and tighten the piss outta the bolts. problem solved. NO NO NO! Absolutely NOT. Critical fasteners MUST be tightened the correct amount. Over-tightening will overstress the fastener, leading to eventual failure. Under-tightening will result in the fastener coming loose. If you do not understand or believe in the importance of proper torque on fasteners, please cease working on any vehicles driven on public streets. Someone is going to get hurt by your mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black95 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 It has been awhile since I was on the site, I found that the dealer sells the bolts for $2 a peice. Not bad, considering they are factory parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperSon Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I thightened mine at 100 ft lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 Pathy Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 YES, I must agree with MWS on over tightening. DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT over tighten. You can have an issue like this one.....Darn pic's....SuperSon.....You might want to loosen yours up. They are suppose to be 80 ft lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 Pathy Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Let's try this pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperSon Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) YES, I must agree with MWS on over tightening. DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT over tighten. You can have an issue like this one.....Darn pic's....SuperSon.....You might want to loosen yours up. They are suppose to be 80 ft lbs. I coulda swear it says 100 ft.lbs on chiltons...Im going to check it later. I know for sure that it got rid of that annoying pop when I thightened it about 4 months ago. Thanks Edited February 7, 2007 by SuperSon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperSon Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 (edited) Let's try this pic. Wrong pic. Thats your upper arm :confused: Is that the trailmaster 4" lift you got there? Edited February 7, 2007 by SuperSon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 No, that's a Calmini UCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperSon Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I know thats a calmini uca but the BL lift looks different :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blamtro Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 OMG, just go to a junkyard and get the bolt, and take a 1/2 impact and tighten the piss outta the bolts. problem solved. Yes, make sure that you put some hairline fractures in the bolt so it breaks in the near future at the most in-opportune time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yozsi Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 i tighten bolts to what feels good, after working on cars and trucks my whole life i kinda know the feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88pathoffroad Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I know thats a calmini uca but the BL lift looks different :confused: A BL is a body lift. Your arrow is pointing at the stock upper shock mount. You have a few things confused there. The TM 4" lift is a suspension lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black95 Posted February 9, 2007 Author Share Posted February 9, 2007 Yeah I don't plan on over tightening them. Chilton says 80 to 108 ft. lbs. Now if it would quit snowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonainmi Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 i tighten bolts to what feels good, after working on cars and trucks my whole life i kinda know the feel. hmmm....... i tend to use a torque wrench to tighten ALL my bolts.... that way when it buzzes (yes i have an electronic torque wrench from SnapOn) i know there tight all-data comes in handy as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotirefryer Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Yes, make sure that you put some hairline fractures in the bolt so it breaks in the near future at the most in-opportune time... works for me, never had a bolt break or shear. i use a little common sense and there are things that NEED to be dead on, but a 12mm grade 8 bolt? i guess different strokes for different folks, that just seem overly anal. and BTW, a grade 8 bolt will never have a hairline fracture, it breaks in two or strips thread. :secret: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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