The liberty has soccer mom written all over it! What gets me off is their ignorance to think that they are invincible in that thing, and then drive like maniacs to get their kids to soccer practice while on the cell phone, haha! Besides being one of the ugliest vehicles on the road, it is probably one of the worst when it comes to reliability, aren't all jeeps though? Have you ever looked at a paint job on a wrangler? How the frame starts rusting really bad? What about the quality of the interior parts? Or how it rattles like it is going to fall apart after a couple of years? I think it's more of the mentality and the following that jeep has acquired now. They aren't offroad enthusiasts anymore and probably never will be. Unless, that is what Jeep intends on changing with this "trail rated" bs. Which, we all know will rip jeep a new hole as soon as people start frying their trucks. They get a jeep for the reputation of being the crappiest vehicle ever made, or what they think "one of the most capable vehicles" baahahahahahaha! It's almost like "look at my stuff, aren't I with it for having a jeep?" The wranglers have turned into a chick truck, all you see are teenage girls driving them around with the "tom boy" theme, or guys that just want to be in the "in crowd." I think these are probably the most frustrating things for me when it comes to a jeep. How could you possibly choose a new grand cherokee over a new Pathfinder? The Pathfinder is far superior, I just don't get it. I mean the people buying them are most likely not going offroad anyway. So, the new Pathfinder would be fine for toolin around town or highway driving. At least much more so than a grand cherokee!