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  1. No, your rear axle is already a solid axle and is already really strong. Most will tell you it's stronger than a ford 9". And i beleive it. YOu only have to get longer springs if you raise the front any with your sas. as for the housing, i think steevo sells that as just the housing, but im not sure. There are a few threads in the how to section HERE of people that have done their own SAS. each are unique.

     

    I do sell the housing as a separate piece but I also offer all the pieces to get it together.

    Shafts, hubs, brakes, locking hubs, H233B 3rd member, gears, lockers, gear install kits etc.

     

     

    Here are some facts for you...

     

    Dana 44

    Ring Gear: 8.5"

    Axle Diameter:

    Axle Splines:

     

    Nissan H233B:

    Ring Gear: 9.17"

    Axle Diameter: 1.31"

    Axle Splines: 33 (on the Xterra)

     

    Ford 9"

    Ring Gear: 9"

    Axle Diameter: 1.33"

    Axle Splines: 31

    *Pinion has additional bearing for support which adds significant strength under load.

     

    Dana 60:

    Ring Gear: 9.75"

    Axle Diameter: 1.50"

    Axle Splines: 35

     

    I made a thread in general forums called h233 upgrades but this is the brunt of the information, as you can tell the nissan rear end is strong, surprisingly strong, as for a front end... I wish they made a front h233b lol

    Keep in mind that the H233B in the WD21 pathfinder is a 31 spline @ 1.28" diameter.

     

    Really? I am going to have to look into this, when I do my sas/4bt swap I was going to use a Dana 44 upfront and the h322b in the rear, I'm curious about the ford 9" on the length and if they make a front axle in the 9" because with the torque of the diesel I'm expecting to break the 44 but I don't want to cut down a Dana 60 (especially the front) and loose axle clearance for strength.

     

    Plus I assume the h322 front axle will be a lot harder to find after market parts for, but might be worth it for strength... Well after work I'm going to do some research, I shall post my results comparing front ends

    This is correct, The fronts are only 31 spline, but they have 33 spline aftermarket upgrades out there. They've been doing this in the patrols since the mid 80's and they are also high pinion. (but it's really not that big of a difference between low and high pinion on the H233B)

    However, the Front H233B in the patrols is a passenger side drop and is opposite of what we'd require here.

     

    Also, the birfields on the Front H233B from nissan are the weak spot, so building the diamond axle up using the D60 steering components not only is easier to get parts for but it a stronger setup.

  2. A quick intro of this awesome summertime event:

    Every Year I participate in Outdoor Adventure USA's Summerfest which consists of wheeling and operating ham radio as part of an National event called Field Day which is organized by the ARRL. http://www.arrl.org/field-day

     

    The Trail that will be ran is called the Miller Jeep Trail and will be lead by Tom Severin from Badlands off Road Adventures.

     

    (keep an eye out of some dutch oven chocolate cake!)

    There will be a potluck dinner saturday night and you're very strongly encouraged to prepare something to share.

     

    For field day We will have numerous ham radio stations set up that will be operated straight for a 24 hour period trying to score as many points as possible by making contacts with people all over the country.

    we will be operating under the clubs call sign so there is no need to be a licensed ham radio operator.

     

    If you are looking to become a licensed ham, there will be on site testing from technician class to extra class.

    Please chime in on the O.A. U.S.A. message board to let us know if you'll be planning on taking a test.

     

    See Below for more in depth info:

     

    Field Day / Summer Fest: http://forums.oausa.net/viewforum.php?f=177

     

    Dates

    June 21-23th, 2013 (Friday, Saturday and Sunday)

     

    Location - See directions below

    MCGILL CAMPGROUND, CA

    Part of Los Padres National Forest, US Forest Service

     

    McGill Campground sits in a mixed conifer forest in the Pinos Mountains, at an altitude of 7,500 feet. Campground temperatures are typically 15 to 20 degrees cooler than the Los Angeles Basin, just over an hour's drive from the campground.

     

    The area is in the northeastern part of Los Padres National Forest, which boasts 1,257 miles of maintained trails. Much of the forest is primitive and has 10 designated wilderness areas.

     

    Facilities

    fire ring

    vault toilets

    picnic tables

     

    ***Note***: There are no RV hookups and no water

     

    GPS Location Coordinates:

    34.81556, -119.09833

    34°48'56"N, 119°5'54"W

    Elevation : 7500

     

    Directions:

    Take I-5 North to Frazier Mountain Park Road exit. Go west on Frazier Mountain Park Road for 7 miles to Cuddy Valley Road. Bear right at Cuddy Valley Road. Continue 5 miles to the Y in the road and veer left for 5 more miles to McGill Campground entrance on the right side of the road.

     

    Fees:

    The fee is per vehicle for the entire three days and will reserve you a spot in the group campsite for both nights. The site can accommodate tents, trailers and RVs (but note - there are no hook-ups):

     

    $55.00 -in advance for any vehicle

    $65.00 -for a drop-in (Showing up without notice.)

     

    How to make Payment:

    Payments will be taken via the Donate button at the bottom of any page on the OAUSA website. Once payment has been received, CONFIRMED will be posted next to your name on the Sign Up Roster. For other payment arrangements or questions, PM DaveK. Fees are refundable up to 14 days prior to the event with no penalties.

     

    Radio call-in for information

    For each of the three days of this event we will be monitoring one or more of the repeaters in the area. At this point it looks like we will start with the Frazier Mountain Repeater. Check back here for updates to the list of repeaters we will use.

     

    Frazier Mountain Repeater

    447.860-

    141.3

     

    On your way in, if you need help finding the campsite or need any other information, use these repeaters.

     

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    Saturday June 22 Miller Jeep Trail Run: http://forums.oausa.net/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=3469

     

    Lead: Tom Severin

    Tail Gunner: TBD

    Comms Designee: Tom Severin

    Difficulty: Difficult

    Meeting Time: 8:30 am

    Meeting Place: McGil Group Campsite

    Departure Time: 8:30 am

    CB Channel: Ch. 4

    2M Simplex: 146.460

    2M Repeater: Frazer Park 447.860 - (PL: 141.3)

     

    There will be 12 rig maximum for this run.

     

    TRAIL DESCRIPTION:

    The trail runs through the Padres National Forest from Lockwood Valley Road to Alamo Mountain. The trail covers a lot of ground. We go up and down 3 ridges on the Lockwood trail before we get to Miller. There is a stream crossing (Lockwood Creek) at the Sunset Camp site It is generally only a couple inches of water and it has a smooth gravel bed for crossing. There is a picnic spot at the camp sitel with shade trees and picnic tables. The final ascent up Alamo Mtn is the most difficult section of the trail. It gets steep, loose and rocky with some potential for hitting the low points and rocker panels on stock rigs pretty hard.

     

     

     

     

    LOGISTICS:

    We will meet at camp grounds at 8:30 Saturday morning and head back down toward I-5 but only to Lockwood Valley road. That will take us the start of the trail. We will have lunch on the trail. Once we are up on top of Alamo Mountain, we will have a long drive back on Gold Hill road through Hungry Valley State Park. But it will give us an opportunity to gas up in Lebec.

     

     

    RATING:

    The Forest Service rates it as Most Difficult. It is a 6 or 7.

    6 = Quite rocky or deep ruts. Rocks to 12" and frequent. Water crossings may exceed hub depth with strong currents. Shelves to 6". Mud may require checking before proceeding. Moderate grades to 20 degrees. Sidehill may approach 30 degrees. 4WD necessary and second attempts may be required with stock vehicles. Caution may be required with wider vehicles.

    7= Rocks frequent and large, 12" and may exceed hub height. Holes frequent or deep (12"). Shelves to 9". Mud 8" deep and may be present on uphill sections. Grades to 25 degrees and sidehill to 30 degrees. Water crossings to 18" and may have strong currents. 1-1/2 vehicles wide. 4WD required. Driver experience helpful.

     

    ADVENTURE PASSES:

    Adventure passes are required in the National Forests. You need either a Daily Adventure Pass ($5.00) or an Annual Adventure Pass ($30.00). Please purchase a pass in advance! We will not have time to stop. They can be purchased at Big 5, REI and other sporting goods stores or directly form the Forest Service at any of the District Ranger Stations. You can purchase one on line at http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/nationalforeststore. Dons Liquor Mart at 616 Monterey Trail in Frazier Park sells them (661-245-1712) as does Midway Market 600 E. Border St. (661-245-1790 in Frazier Park. Check out http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/ap/ for more details on the Adventure Pass program.

    DRIVING TIPS:

    Longer wheel bases will need to hold longer into the turns to clear obstacles and to get between trees that are close. Use low range first gear to creep over obstacles. Compression braking is required on the descents into the valleys. As long as you are no more then 3-5 MPH you will be able to make the turn as the trails works its way down. Stock vehicles should pick the easier lines and ask for spotters.

     

     

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    Let me know if you have have any questions regarding this event.

    -Steven

  3. You would need custom inner shafts. This axle was built by "The King" for his Nissan powered rock buggy. Here is the build thread over on Rugged Rocks. http://forum.ruggedrocksoffroad.com/index.php/topic,1640.0.html

     

    If anyone here needs custom inner axle shafts for an H233B, please let me know.

    We've had a few sets made now and the first set that was made didn't come out right and I would really like to refer you to the right people to get these done correctly.

  4. It's been done. The axle was flipped and had D44 inners welded on. It was on a buggy so the pumpkin was left in the center.

     

    axle001.jpg?t=1316973996

    Hey guys.. the picture above was for a rear engine buggy where both axles needed to be flipped so it would run backwards.

    If you're turning a rear axle into front for your truck, DO NOT FLIP IT. you will end up with the axles fighting each other. the rear axle pushing you r forward and the front one going in reverse.

     

    That being said, you can do it, you just need to leave it in a low pinion configuration.

  5. Thanks guys!

    It's actually been getting revamped / building what will be offered as the Rugged Rocks 3-Link SAS kit on 14" Travel Sway-a-way coil overs!!

    I have tons of pics and the a few threads on building the truck on the RR Forum however they are incomplete at this time and I have a lot of catching up to do .

    I'll also be rolling this all into one large article.

     

    The new front axle is a Diamond H233B w/ D60 Kingpin Outters running an LSD and 5.57 gears on 37" Tires on Allied 17" Beadlocks.

    https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/nissan-h233b-front-axle-housing-by-diamond-axle-p-36077.html

     

     

     

    The rear is Still running the RR 4-Link kit as it has been for the last few years.. it's been awesome.

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